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Old 05-30-2020, 02:59 AM
 
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Amtrak already does it out of Penn with no issues. The Acela for instance now has assigned seating and have to pre-book. Actually makes boarding easier, you know where you are sitting and trains cant get overcrowded. All LIRR has to do is assign seat numbers on AP and you book a particular train. You cant go to platform without a pre booked ticket.
Those are not daily commuters for the most part. What happens if you miss a train and need to catch a later train? You can not get to work because the next 2 trains are booked? Vice versa trying to get home if you have to work a little later or can leave earlier.
Also, daily commuters can not just be assigned random seats. Most have to take subways or buses afterward so need to be sitting in certain cars that dock closer to the staircase or platform oe exit they need to be near or else they have to walk clear through Penn or Atlantic terminal. Plus many trains require people to sit in the back or the front because not all station platforms are long enough to accomodate every train.
Lirr would have to run trains every 20 minutes like the subway to be able to social distance. People are squashed like cattle as it was during rush hours when every seat was taken and it is standind room only, esp those trains where people need to transfer to get connections.
Many do not have jobs amenable to remote work so when offices open up - back to the city they go. Driving is not an option for most either as parking is not something readily available or affordable. This is a big part of the problem for long island residents workimg in NYC once NYC reopens.
My kids will be on those trains once theit jobs green light back to work in phase 2 of NYCs reopening and I am really worried for their safety.

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Old 05-30-2020, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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The LIRR and MTA will be busy trying to solve other problems. The telecommuting that has been done will lead business to reconsider their business models. More people will be working form home with maybe a trip into NYC once or twice a month. This will create a huge drop off in the numbers commuting and therefore the budget will be impacted for the LIRR & MTA.

Additionally, there will be a ton of commercial property in NYC available, as reconfiguring the workplace will become not only cost prohibitive, but the current space may not readily be adaptable to the new norms. This is not going to be a good time to be a commercial real estate broker.
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Old 05-30-2020, 10:05 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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The LIRR and MTA will be busy trying to solve other problems. The telecommuting that has been done will lead business to reconsider their business models. More people will be working form home with maybe a trip into NYC once or twice a month. This will create a huge drop off in the numbers commuting and therefore the budget will be impacted for the LIRR & MTA.

Additionally, there will be a ton of commercial property in NYC available, as reconfiguring the workplace will become not only cost prohibitive, but the current space may not readily be adaptable to the new norms. This is not going to be a good time to be a commercial real estate broker.

I don't entirely agree with your first paragraph because there are lots of power mad bosses out there who feel that they have to have everyone under observation at all times. And then there are others who simply like the culture of everyone being in one place. There are also issues with people working from home - as my boss says, when people work from home they either get nothing done or they can't break away from it. My company has put their foot down about people not getting away from it and are monitoring who is working when. They also had suspended the vacation max policy for three months but are now back to a "use it or lose it" policy as vacation time dropped 70% over the last few months and they are afraid of burnout. Everyone is working from home so people are going to have to take time whether they can travel or not.

Second paragraph - yeah, it's true that many people will never go back to the office - a lot of boomers will now leave the workplace altogether as well if they were on the fence about retiring this will be the push. At the same time, offices will need a lot more space to keep employees distanced. That's going to be real interesting. Someone on my nextdoor site is already trying to sell a commercial property. ON NEXTDOOR!
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Old 05-30-2020, 12:01 PM
 
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I think I already posted on the NYC forum that the open office favored by millenial run start ups will have to go. It will be back to Dilbert style cubicles.
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Old 05-30-2020, 12:25 PM
 
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Meh, soo many what ifs. Give it a few more months and it will be business as usual in my opinion.
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Old 05-30-2020, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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None of this is even needed as long as people can actually stay home if sick. When people are incentivized to never miss a day of work they drag themselves in when sick infecting everyone on the train and at the job. Stop allowing workers to pile up sick days for a big payout. Use them or lose them. Period.
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Old 05-30-2020, 06:01 PM
 
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None of this is even needed as long as people can actually stay home if sick. When people are incentivized to never miss a day of work they drag themselves in when sick infecting everyone on the train and at the job. Stop allowing workers to pile up sick days for a big payout. Use them or lose them. Period.
The problem here is that whole asymptotic spreading thing though.
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:25 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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The problem here is that whole asymptotic spreading thing though.
Asymptomatic people don't cough very much though. So this "asymptomatic spread" thing is probably a bit overblown.
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Old 05-31-2020, 10:58 AM
 
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Asymptomatic people don't cough very much though. So this "asymptomatic spread" thing is probably a bit overblown.
Not overblown. Coughing is not the only means of transmission. Talking also creates airborne droplets, which find their way onto all kinds of surfaces. This is why face covering is so important.
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Old 05-31-2020, 11:20 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Not overblown. Coughing is not the only means of transmission. Talking also creates airborne droplets, which find their way onto all kinds of surfaces. This is why face covering is so important.
If someone wants to panic, fine. Wearing a mask should be required on a train or bus.
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