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Most of Nassau County except for the northern part of the Town of Oyster Bay bears some resemblance to Queens. Everybody in Nassau/Suffolk always fears their area turning into Queens, no matter what area you are in. One thing you don't hear in Westchester is how their area is turning into Queens or the Bronx for that matter.
Good point.
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Why do so many people rather live on Long Island than the Lower Hudson area? If Westchester is so awesome, you'd think people would actually move there already.
Most of Nassau County except for the northern part of the Town of Oyster Bay bears some resemblance to Queens. Everybody in Nassau/Suffolk always fears their area turning into Queens, no matter what area you are in. One thing you don't hear in Westchester is how their area is turning into Queens or the Bronx for that matter.
Long Island has always been culturally connected to Brooklyn and Queens. Westchester is a bunch of argyle sock wearing gentiles that want no association to the South Bronx.
Long Island has always been culturally connected to Brooklyn and Queens. Westchester is a bunch of argyle sock wearing gentiles that want no association to the South Bronx.
Bwahahaha that was funny
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Why do so many people rather live on Long Island than the Lower Hudson area? If Westchester is so awesome, you'd think people would actually move there already.
Westchester is cost-prohibitive for most of the world, including Long Island. Long Island is also much larger than the lower hudson area, so it can fit more people. The land is also very flat and featureless, which allows for housing to be more easily built. The lower hudson area, and especially Westchester, developed land use protections very early, which did a good job at preventing overdeveloped sprawl. Long Island was more late to the game in this regard. The topography ties into this as well.
Tons more people would be living in Westchester if: a) they could afford it; b) there was more housing available. A much larger percentage of Westchester and the lower hudson valley has either prohibited dense suburban development, or consists of topographical features which make such either impossible or not cost-effective.
Rockland County isn't as culturally connected to NYC the same way Nassau/Suffolk are. It has it's own identity, there's no direct train service to Manhattan, so not everyone is moving there to be "close" to "the city" the same way many Long Islanders are, in the fact that they want easy access to "the city" on the LIRR, but want to be far away from the people they don't like.
All of this is essentially wrong as it pertains to Suffolk. Nassau is probably different. Rockland County, if anything, is TOO culturally connected to NYC. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a member of the NYPD or FDNY, and most people are either from NYC or were born to parents who were. And obviously a lot of people commute to NYC for work. The difference, owing to inefficiencies in RR service relative to distance, is that a much higher percentage of people will commute not using the train in relation to LI. On LI, nearly everyone working in the city takes the LIRR. In Rockland, many will take the train, but many will also drive and many will take a bus. For off-peak commuters (cops and fireman often fall into this category) the commute by car is a breeze and beats coming in from Suffolk via train. And people in Rockland are much more likely to go into Manhattan for non-work reasons as opposed to people from Suffolk - for things like having surgery at a hospital, going to dinner, seeking professional services, ect. Rockland lacks a local identity for such things, so people instead just assume that its better to go to Manhattan (or Westchester or NJ). I don't think this dynamic exists out in Suffolk. The bottom line is that Suffolk is probably less culturally connected to Manhattan, which probably is a good thing.
On the identity issue, its the complete opposite. Rockland lacks an identity, while Nassau/Suffolk have a strong LI identity. The whole world knows what LI is. No one knows Rockland. If you mention a place in Rockland to people, some will say its NJ, while others will say its Westchester. Some upstaters actually think its part of the City. The bottom line is that Rockland either had no identity, or an identity shared with NYC as one of its bedroom communities. LI, conversely, very much has its own identity separate and apart from NYC. I am shocked, frankly, that someone would think the opposite is true.
Westchester is cost-prohibitive for most of the world, including Long Island. Long Island is also much larger than the lower hudson area, so it can fit more people. The land is also very flat and featureless, which allows for housing to be more easily built. The lower hudson area, and especially Westchester, developed land use protections very early, which did a good job at preventing overdeveloped sprawl. Long Island was more late to the game in this regard. The topography ties into this as well.
Tons more people would be living in Westchester if: a) they could afford it; b) there was more housing available. A much larger percentage of Westchester and the lower hudson valley has either prohibited dense suburban development, or consists of topographical features which make such either impossible or not cost-effective.
Sounds like Westchester is a bunch of greedy one percenters. No thank you. I ain't down with AOC.
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Westchester IS uppity one percenters.
Not to be confused with the unwashed masses that is Long Island....
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