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Old 02-19-2014, 07:07 PM
 
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Hempstead and Riverhead should rival cities like White Plains, New Rochelle, Yonkers, etc.

I'll even make a case for Mineola and Long Beach.
Well all those places except for Hempstead are smaller population-wise than White Plains, New Rochelle, and Yonkers.

The problem more so is that White Plains, New Rochelle, and Yonkers were built and developed more like small cities. Hempstead, Riverhead, Mineola seemed to be built more as suburban communities and as of now don't have much of the infrastructure and mindset to become small cities.
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:53 PM
 
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Well all those places except for Hempstead are smaller population-wise than White Plains, New Rochelle, and Yonkers.

The problem more so is that White Plains, New Rochelle, and Yonkers were built and developed more like small cities. Hempstead, Riverhead, Mineola seemed to be built more as suburban communities and as of now don't have much of the infrastructure and mindset to become small cities.
Well, let's start with the mindset!
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Old 02-19-2014, 08:04 PM
 
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The place that can best be developed into a satellite city is long beach. You won't have a hard time finding developers willing to build there as well as affluent people eager to buy waterfront apartments.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:23 PM
 
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I didn't bother with the other 7 as they weren't public school district related. I just found it interesting that 3 school districts comprised some of the top ten employers in Brookhaven.
Point taken. Most of the jobs are union-based and absent was any private enterprise.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:34 PM
 
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I think the reason why LI doesn't attract much business is because there is no small cities with >50k population. Westchester has Yonkers, New Rochelle, and White Plains. North Jersey has Newark, Jersey City, and Hoboken. Southern Connecticut has Stamford and Bridgeport.

Civil sector jobs are the largest employer on LI. North Shore-LIJ is the largest private employer, which is more of a "service" industry since it's a non-profit hospital system. In order to find good private sector jobs you usually have to commute to NYC.

I believe if there were more private business on LI, taxes would be lower.
In principle, I agree, but not for the reason you're postulating. LI never had 'small' cities with > 50k population, but LI did have a substantial private sector as recently as the 80's and 90's.

The reasons the private sector has eroded to virtually nil (what's left is here to loot the tax abatements and utility credits, hiring only the cheapest, less skilled laborers) are the same points folks in this thread are so incensed... namely, huge property tax bills and outrageous utility rates. Underscore this with a lack of planning and crumbling infrastructure and I want to put my house on the market tonight, before the real estate market just free falls.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:48 PM
 
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In principle, I agree, but not for the reason you're postulating. LI never had 'small' cities with > 50k population, but LI did have a substantial private sector as recently as the 80's and 90's.

The reasons the private sector has eroded to virtually nil (what's left is here to loot the tax abatements and utility credits, hiring only the cheapest, less skilled laborers) are the same points folks in this thread are so incensed... namely, huge property tax bills and outrageous utility rates. Underscore this with a lack of planning and crumbling infrastructure and I want to put my house on the market tonight, before the real estate market just free falls.
People have been saying this for years and yet houses here are still super expensive (even post real estate crash) and people continue to buy them.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:08 PM
 
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People have been saying this for years and yet houses here are still super expensive (even post real estate crash) and people continue to buy them.
Probably mostly people from the 5 boroughs who are not realizing they're probably better off where they're at.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:19 PM
 
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Probably mostly people from the 5 boroughs who are not realizing they're probably better off where they're at.
Better off? That's subjective. You couldn't pay me to live in the 5 boroughs.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:22 PM
 
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Better off? That's subjective. You couldn't pay me to live in the 5 boroughs.
Talking from a tax subjective, as is the topic of the thread. Sorry I did not embellish.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:48 PM
 
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Talking from a tax subjective, as is the topic of the thread. Sorry I did not embellish.
NP sorry I took you out of context. No argument about property taxes of course, although you Guys do have that pesky income tax
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