[uncle_el]

does vegas have its bad spots? i guess so, but it's no where near the level of la, oakland, new york city, or some other areas.

does vegas have its "sleazy" side? i guess so, but unlike most other cities, this one is up front with it. as was mentioned before, its expected here, and there's plenty of exaggeration.

i think you really have to get off of the strip in order to see that there's more to vegas than the airport, buffets, hotels, shows, and escorts. but those are the things that keep tourists coming here. and thus, those are the things that get talked about.

in that sense, its like any other city. there's the side that the tourists see, and the side that people who actually live there see. sometimes they're the same, sometimes they're completley different... and others, its a little of both.

[Buzz123]

Are we talking about one four mile stretch of road called Las Vegas Boulevard (The Strip) which is there to cater to the whims of these hypocrite, holier than thou elitists who then go home and pontificate on how bad our city is? Or are we talking about Las Vegas the city, where average people live and work in all kinds of fields that have nothing to do with the so called sleaze?

[bosozoku]

Originally Posted by Buzz123

Sleazy is New York City, New Orleans, Miami, Newark, Detroit, San Francisco. There are sleazy things in Las Vegas, and a couple of small areas where there is sleaze, but it's probably less than one percent of the city. I see the same sleazy stuff in very small towns all over the country. Las Vegas markets adult entertainment and exaggerates what you will actually experience here. The customers for this stuff are the "nice" people from all parts of the country. You all knew this when you came here so why complain now? And those of you who don't live here shouldn't be so hypocritical since you've got it where you are too. I've noticed and heard about more aberrated sexual behavior in just about any place I've been than I notice here. But in reality the percentage of people that sleaze appeals to is probably the same in every city and hamlet on the planet. It's probably 20% of any population group.

bravo buzzy bravo! that deserves a reppie damn it.


Sleazy?..nah..its the same in other parts of the country, Las Vegas is just not being a hypocrite about it.

as for the billboards that were mentioned here somewhere in the forums..i see that in california by the 60 frwy . so whats the difference?

[PinkString]

I've never felt the city was sleazy. There are parts geared to that, it's down on Fremont street, part of the strip, by the Stratosphere,etc. The entire city is not sleazy or scummy. Those porn flyers are a strip thing. It's not citywide. People aren't in every single neighborhood begging for money. Just some area's. I never see that where I live or other places I venture to. Maybe if one is looking for them, the sleaze, scum or whatever, you will find it.

[RandalR]

For sleazy, try walking down Market Street in San Francisco after dark. Financial capital of the West and the place looks like a refugee camp for crackheads.

Nothing I've seen in Las Vegas is that bad. I think the "sleazy" vibe is largely propelled by local billboard advertising, from Bait and Tackle Productions to Glen Lerner. A lot of cities in California ban billboards for just that reason - they tend to attract the lowest common denominator of advertiser.

[Frisco Franko]

HELL YEAH!!!!

This place was built on prostitution and gambling along with a ton of political corruption.

[olecapt]

It pretty much is a regular southwestern city.

But it is marketed world wide as somewhat decadent. A more risque place than where you live. Come to Vegas and sin a little...even if it is only gambling and gluttony...

Its billboards and such are actually about the same as those of southern CA and other big cities. You have to be deaf and blind to miss the prosititutes in Manhattan. In some places they try to crawl in the car with you.

[desertsun41]

Originally Posted by lvkewlkid

how do you know they are illegal?

Also, what so bad about them working $8/hr, they are trying to make a living so unemployment and welfare don't have to give them anything and they aren't on the street asking you for money...they are trying to make a living too...

We all know those who push the cards and dirty magazines on the strip are illegal. Its just a fact whether you like it or want to believe it. The way you defend illegals all the time I am suspicious of your immigration status.

I wasnt so much making fun of those idiots making scab wages, your right, we all have to work but my problem with them is their head is larger then a ten ton tub of turds. I dont approve the way they treat those who must go through their gauntlet to work. They are not real cops. In fact they are mostly failures at the oink acadamy and that is the only job they can find. But they still think they are real cops and treat us peons like real cops do. Like trash !

For those of you driving through one of those communist places, if one of those keystone cops try to pull you over because you were exceeding the artificially low speed limits, keep on driving. They are not allowed to pull you over. If you stop for them then you have allowed yourself to be illegally detained by a non officer of the law. According to law that is kidnapping. Give the fool the finger and slowly keep on driving. He can not chase you outside of his little turf. If they pull in front of you to block you then call the real police. If they are not a sworn officer of the law then they can not detain you. If you allow them to give you a summons you do not have to pay it. The worst that can happen is you (if you live there) or the homeowner you visited will lose all rights to the clubhouse or golf course or whatever amenities that place offers.

Those speed limit or other traffic signs in those private communities are not DOT approved locations. They are DOT approved standard signs purchased from the DOT but that is of no care to us. A traffic sign is unenforceable if the location is not DOT approved and in all private communities they are not. Same for signs in a mall parking lot. They are unenforceable even by a real officer. That dont mean one will never give you a summons for running a stop sign in a parking lot. But if you take it to court I guarantee you it will be dismissed.

[desertsun41]

Originally Posted by BUGBULLY

I used to live outside of Dallas, TX, when I was about 10. I would see more homeless people there then I do here. Granted, I do not really venture into the areas that they tend to congregate at. Most that I see, I think are wannabes, that probably make better money then I do!

I agree I dont see too many here around town either though I know there are plenty.

Did you ever see the carboard city with about a hundred homeless people? If your driving down 15 south I think it might be the Cheyanne overpass, if you look way off to the right you will see dozens and dozens of appliance boxes used as homes. If you look real closely many of them look like normal people. By normal I mean appearance wise, semi clean, decent cloths, combed hair. They all have a story. No one here made fun of them so far and I hope that dont change.

[jfkIII]

many homeless choose to live that way, and when forced to do otherwise, are miserable.