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Old 04-22-2020, 07:36 PM
 
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I thought the morgue was full and the cold trailers are overflow capacity.
I haven't seen any footage of a full morgue in the US. While trucks were ordered for NYC, I never saw any footage of them in use. I did see footage of a single truck parked next to Manhattan hospital that was empty.

I haven't heard anything at all about Philly's plans. Also, I haven't heard any reports that ambulance services were unable to transport due to overload anywhere in the US.
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Old 04-22-2020, 07:37 PM
 
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Who exactly is in the hospital with COVID-19? What is the typical patient profile (e.g., age and underlying health conditions)? What percentage of the hospital beds are they utilizing? What percentage of the ICU beds are they utilizing? What percentage of the ventilators are they utilizing? .
I don't know how you expect a nurse or other various medical personnel to know this. The people that keep track of this information, are upper administration at each hospital. We don't have access to all those percentages/estimates. I will say, two common themes I have noticed that seem to be associated with a poor recovery are: obesity, and any pre-existing respiratory condition. Not always the case, though. I had a 39 yo male (+) last week, morbidly obese, that I would be surprised if he recovers.
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Old 04-22-2020, 07:42 PM
 
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Great, I saw that. So what day was the trend downward? You can just type it.

Which trend are you inquiring about?
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Old 04-22-2020, 07:55 PM
 
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I don't know how you expect a nurse or other various medical personnel to know this. The people that keep track of this information, are upper administration at each hospital. We don't have access to all those percentages/estimates. I will say, two common themes I have noticed that seem to be associated with a poor recovery are: obesity, and any pre-existing respiratory condition. Not always the case, though. I had a 39 yo male (+) last week, morbidly obese, that I would be surprised if he recovers.

I appreciate the response and your insights. Your observations are helpful, and the state really ought to be providing the data you noted the administrators have so we have real-time hospitalization data to know the true impact of COVID-19 on hospitals.
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Old 04-22-2020, 08:01 PM
 
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I don't know how you expect a nurse or other various medical personnel to know this. The people that keep track of this information, are upper administration at each hospital. We don't have access to all those percentages/estimates. I will say, two common themes I have noticed that seem to be associated with a poor recovery are: obesity, and any pre-existing respiratory condition. Not always the case, though. I had a 39 yo male (+) last week, morbidly obese, that I would be surprised if he recovers.
Well, several posters on the board have a penchant for posting alarmist articles and decrying the data of posters who refute those without really ever posting any actual data of their own.

The common claim seems to be that conservative posters are placing people in danger, claiming the virus is a hoax, but don't provide anything to back their arguments besides UK tabloids and other such unsubstantiated nonsense.

I think the more conservative posters here have been primarily sticking to the CDC data and discussing other data released in various news articles and pointing out how these numbers are comparable to seasonal flu of previous years (which is verifiable) but keep getting shouted down as tin foil hat wearers, q-tards, etc.

For all of the rather incredible claims some of the Liberal news agencies have been making there sure is a complete vacuum of actual evidence.

For the sake of argument, I just went to look up the mobile morgues in NYC again and all I could find was about 100 AI re-written versions of the same AP article talking about the trucks in NYC claiming a shortage or potential shortage of morgue space. Yet, I could only find 2 photos, each with a single body in the truck, and 1 video that was retracted for being edited with footage from Portugal.

So, no photos or videos of trucks full of bodies from the US.
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Old 04-22-2020, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I haven't seen any footage of a full morgue in the US. While trucks were ordered for NYC, I never saw any footage of them in use. I did see footage of a single truck parked next to Manhattan hospital that was empty.

I haven't heard anything at all about Philly's plans. Also, I haven't heard any reports that ambulance services were unable to transport due to overload anywhere in the US.
NY Post story..

https://nypost.com/2020/04/18/corona...-dirty-packed/
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Old 04-22-2020, 08:31 PM
 
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As we are in the Las Vegas thread - I assume that Freedom4Nevada is claiming that hospitals in Las Vegas are firing their staff locally. I haven't heard anything about that, the medical community here is small and word gets around. Thus I asked them to provide more info., which I haven't seen yet.

I realize rural areas have different challenges and are likely cutting hours or laying off staff. But I want to hear what they mean by hospitals here are firing their employees.
Furloughed and laid off (Fired ok?) Once more I will not provide internal information but you work in the industry you could ask administration folks that you hang out with and find out the details. Is it an HCA facility? Private? Valley Health Systems? It runs the gamut here like everywhere but if your ICU is busy then that is one of the few that are. Tribal areas are being hit very hard yet even their facilities are seeing low census as well. You must work for the state system like University.
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Old 04-22-2020, 08:41 PM
 
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No, but she should be required to take tours of the hospitals in her city and the COVID19 wards. The hospitals may look empty on the outside but once you pass the screening with temperature checks, ID checks, and masks you'll see it's busy inside and people are keeping away from each other in their own areas. They're taking this very seriously on the frontlines of this.
No they aren’t. I’m friends with three nurses. At three hospitals they are overstaffed and laying people off.
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Old 04-22-2020, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain for good
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I argued this in another post that those willing to take the risk to reenter society should be allowed to do so. Those who do not wish to reenter society, which it appears tend to be most leftists, literally have nothing to lose.
I agree that those who wish to go back should. You would need all business open. This would force those who want to stay home(most leftists) back on the job or possibly have their job filled. Add that some had their first taste of govt issued guaranteed income(stimulus check) and you can see why we must wait the longest possible time before we open up. For safety reasons of course.
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Old 04-23-2020, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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I just watched the Anderson Cooper interview. It was painful.

Normally I would say - go ahead and shoot yourself in the foot. However, that gravely impacts the Vegas Valley, as well as the visitors and their home cities. I always figured she was "casino'd" up (you can't really be mayor without it), but this really shows how much she will put the relationship with the casino heads over the health of the guttersnipe peasants who make up the rest of the populace as far as she and the casino heads are concerned.

I can sympathize with those who are out of work and struggling. I know they are worried and anxious to their core.

What really pisses me off is that it is as if the casinos are printing money when times are not catastrophic. Did they put anything aside for their employees? Of course not. AND I read a news report that they are requesting bail-out. I would laugh if I thought they wouldn't get it.
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