[equid0x]

Originally Posted by ND_Irish

Last night's state situation report gave the following utilization percentages for all hospitals for all types of patients:

63% of Licensed & Staffed Beds Occupied

71% of ICU Rooms Occupied

34% of Ventilators in Use

Since you have an internal view of what is occurring in certain local hospitals, I would like to know the following if you are willing to provide some additional information to all of us:

What is your best estimate of the percentage of all beds occupied by COVID-19 patients?


What is your best estimate of the percentage of all ICU beds occupied by COVID-19 patients?


What is your best estimate of the percentage of ventilators in use by COVID-19 patients?


What is your estimate of the percentage of hospitalized COVID-19 patients who are either over the age of 50 or have an underlying health condition?


The following was noted in last night's PowerPoint presentation on page 9 by the Nevada Hospital Association, and it does not paint a picture of hospitals being overwhelmed:

"HOSPITALIZATIONS

•All-cause hospitalization trends have decreased over the last three weeks

•Confirmed and suspected COVID-19 hospitalization trends have decreased over the last 10 to 14days, respectively


ICU

•All-cause ICU occupancy trends have increased slightly over the last week

•Confirmed or suspected COVID ICU admission trends have decreased over the last two weeks


VENTILATORS

•All-cause ventilator use trends have decreased over the last two weeks

•Confirmed or suspected COVID-19 ventilators use trends have decreased over the last two weeks."

Right. If everything is trending down for 14 days isn't that supposed to be the trigger for phase 1 reopening?

[equid0x]

Originally Posted by orca17

I don't understand everyone bringing up the issue of recalling leaders who make decisions that they don't agree with, whether it's Governor Sisolak, Mayor Goodman or anyone else. This is an unprecedented event, and there is no real blueprint on how best to deal with it. I personally agree with the governor and disagree with the mayor, but that's just me. Our COVID numbers are down, but they aren't down with a wide open city. They are likely down because of the measures that have been taken up to this point. Being in the medical field, I can tell you that it isn't an indication that the danger is over by any means.

I want to see this over with as badly as anyone else, but an ill-advised reopening could lead to an even bigger retreat than we have had up until now.

Sisolak should be recalled for violating several amendments to the US Constitution, a document he swore to uphold when taking office.

I don't see any reason for recalling Goodman. She hasn't violated her office in any way so far.

[vegasfan1985]

Full interview here with Anderson Cooper on CNN:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/las-vega...ally-ignorant/

[CD2017]

Originally Posted by orca17

I don't understand everyone bringing up the issue of recalling leaders who make decisions that they don't agree with, whether it's Governor Sisolak, Mayor Goodman or anyone else. This is an unprecedented event, and there is no real blueprint on how best to deal with it. I personally agree with the governor and disagree with the mayor, but that's just me. Our COVID numbers are down, but they aren't down with a wide open city. They are likely down because of the measures that have been taken up to this point. Being in the medical field, I can tell you that it isn't an indication that the danger is over by any means.

I want to see this over with as badly as anyone else, but an ill-advised reopening could lead to an even bigger retreat than we have had up until now.

I'll have to admit, there was some irony to posting this thread.

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by vegasfan1985

Full interview here with Anderson Cooper on CNN:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/las-vega...ally-ignorant/

I have to admit i was impressed with Carolyn. She did not give an inch to the attacks by Copper. I am generally a Copper fan but Goodman held him off very capably.

So Las Vegas has its Jewish Mother. And that is actually pretty nice.

I do not agree with her at all. But she is certainly hanging in their defending her children...

For the record I do know Carolyn and Oscar. Have had a drink and a brief discussion with them a couple of times. No way a friend or fellow traveler though.

[NoMoreRJ]

Originally Posted by nickydim

What if we find out the penetration rate is 25% of society? 85,000,000 infected with most not even aware and we closed it all down because of a death rate of less 1%. Then all of this would be an over reaction. We won't know the answers for months. So do we stay scared and cowardly or do we go out and live our lives? Our economy cannot last months of shut down.

I stand with the Mayor here. Not as crazy like, but I think all business should be open. Who to say who gets to earn and who doesn't?

She was elected and unless some commits a felony in office you wait until next election to remove them. Its poor citizenship to recall an elected official just because you don like what they say.

Well said, now can you go say the same thing in the Should Sisolak be recalled thread?

Originally Posted by chahunt

Not in the ICU's. Up until only a few days ago, we were being tripled in the ICU, meaning each ICU nurse had 3 Covid-19 patients (normal ICU ratios - for most patient assignments are 2:1). There are still several Covid-19 patients in the ICU with new admits regularly occurring. Most are not clinically improving. Select other wards in the hospital, such as OR, PACU, and various surgical related units are very low in census (or yes, empty) and staff are having difficulty obtaining their hours. Some hospitals are still allowing elective surgery cases. However, I work at 2 ICU's in the LV valley and they are certainly needing all their staff right now.

I have not heard of any staff (any healthcare profession) being fired from the hospital during this time, as you claim. Do you have more information on that?

Some rural hospitals are laying people off since they make money on surgeries and since there are no elective surgeries going on right now. Also, less broken bones and such means less hospital revenues to go to pay for bills of doctors, nurses and staff.
Listened to Why Hospitals Are Laying People Off from The Indicator from Planet Money @Stitcher https://www.stitcher.com/s?eid=68731270

For someone else in the thread who keeps mentioning Tik Tok dancing nurses: You know who you are
But that doesn't mean hopsitals in the hot zones are not full thus they must be dancing on tik tok. It's something they did early on to keep their spirits up and to encourage each other. Ask any ICU nurse if all they do during their shift is dance on tik tok.

[equid0x]

I watched most of the interview. She is in a tough spot because City of LV has a very high concentration of low income workers and it is her job to represent her constituents who clearly are feeling the direct effects of unemployment.

The media is picking her apart for failing to provide a plan but I have to agree in this case that it really isn't her job. SNHD and HHS are in charge of creating and disseminating guidelines and it's on the businesses to implement those.

She can't possibly be out there creating individual plans for the hundreds of thousands of businesses. I think at best she can act as a liaison and ombudsman for the interests of the city and it sounds like she's doing that. She did say she has been referring incoming donations of tests and PPE to local hospitals. What more can she really do?

I think Anderson Cooper is being a bit unfair with her because the state and county medical agencies do not report to her.

[ND_Irish]

Originally Posted by Svoboda

As long as she is willing to be infected with COVID, I'm on board. In fact, if people want to say it isn't bad, the we need herd immunity, that are openly protesting, lets go ahead and get it on the fast track so all of these people can also be infected and see how it shakes out.

How many of you experts here that think it is no big deal are willing to take the virus on and help us get back to normal?

I argued this in another post that those willing to take the risk to reenter society should be allowed to do so. Those who do not wish to reenter society, which it appears tend to be most leftists, literally have nothing to lose. If all of those willing to take the risk are wrong, you will have no opposition to move forward and create the liberal utopia you want. If all of those willing to take the risk are right, then you still benefit by gaining the knowledge the risk is not as great as the "experts" claimed, and you can consider leaving your homes. It's sort of like Pascal's wager in the Pensees.

[ND_Irish]

Originally Posted by equid0x

I watched most of the interview. She is in a tough spot because City of LV has a very high concentration of low income workers and it is her job to represent her constituents who clearly are feeling the direct effects of unemployment.

The media is picking her apart for failing to provide a plan but I have to agree in this case that it really isn't her job. SNHD and HHS are in charge of creating and disseminating guidelines and it's on the businesses to implement those.

She can't possibly be out there creating individual plans for the hundreds of thousands of businesses. I think at best she can act as a liaison and ombudsman for the interests of the city and it sounds like she's doing that. She did say she has been referring incoming donations of tests and PPE to local hospitals. What more can she really do?

I think Anderson Cooper is being a bit unfair with her because the state and county medical agencies do not report to her.

I see that the renowned medical expert Jimmy Kimmel has chimed in that Carolyn Goodman should resign. I can't believe the Las Vegas Review-Journal has this on their homepage. This nonsense reminds me of Ricky Gervais' rant at this year's Golden Globes regarding people in show business and their political opinions.

[ND_Irish]

Originally Posted by equid0x

Right. If everything is trending down for 14 days isn't that supposed to be the trigger for phase 1 reopening?

Indeed. In fact, I recall the Nevada Hospital Association rep specifically saying the curve had been flattened at last night's press conference. Heck, he sounded incredibly confident and optimistic unlike Sisolak and his minions. Hence, why on earth was there absolutely no specific plan presented last night to reopen this state? Oh, that's right; Sisolak was busy getting photographed for Twitter while getting his hair cut on Sunday.