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Old 01-24-2018, 03:44 PM
 
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The public education system will improve with the tax revenue from recreational marijuana. It will take a lot of time to make that change. In the meantime, one must choose a good neighborhood, be an involved parent and have realistic expectations. Bad stuff can happen in upscale private schools or upscale neighborhoods.
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Old 01-24-2018, 04:50 PM
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You can put all the money into the most expensive education system and not get results. Money doesn't make the curriculum stop sucking. Money doesn't make teachers stop teaching for the test.
Even the best school in America are pretty terrible compared to other countries.
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Old 01-24-2018, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Don't know anything about you or your situation
Well, you and I can agree about that, at least. But it didn't stop you from commenting further.
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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You can put all the money into the most expensive education system and not get results. Money doesn't make the curriculum stop sucking. Money doesn't make teachers stop teaching for the test.
Even the best school in America are pretty terrible compared to other countries.
Actually Massachusetts scores well up in the ranks of the better nations. And they spend a lot of money.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesma.../#4c04569a149b

So yes money along with other stuff can help.
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:39 PM
 
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The public education system will improve with the tax revenue from recreational marijuana.
Marijuana tax revenue isn't going to be education's savior. The CCSD budget is 2.8 billion dollars per year. The marijuana tax revenue directed towards schools is currently 20 million per year. That number could definitely increase, but consider that Colorado has the largest marijuana state tax revenue at approx 200 million per year. Enforcement and compliance comes off the top of that. Even if we met Colorado's figures and directed it all to education (which NV does not currently do) it would account for probably 5%-7% of total CCSD budget after accounting for enforcement and compliance.

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You can put all the money into the most expensive education system and not get results. Money doesn't make the curriculum stop sucking. Money doesn't make teachers stop teaching for the test.
Even the best school in America are pretty terrible compared to other countries.
Perhaps, but current teacher/student ratios are pretty crazy, 32:1 in 5th grade and just go up from there. At those levels, kids are not getting much in the way of individual attention. Money can fix that problem.

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Old 01-24-2018, 10:18 PM
 
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The public education system will improve with the tax revenue from recreational marijuana. It will take a lot of time to make that change.
Yeah right.

Every year there are budget cuts. Class sizes are increasing. Teacher salaries are still frozen.

No one values education. They all value cheap daycare.
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Old 01-25-2018, 09:02 PM
 
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No big secret that CCSD is one of the bottom school districts in the country. Not going to change until they change from a top-heavy bureaucracy where the schools and teachers are left to fend for themselves.

With that said, those who have read my posts through the years know my twins have thrived both at the elementary and middle school level. As parents, we have made it a priority to keep our kids challenged and they have responded. Next month, we find out if they will be attending A-Tech.

The key is being involved with all aspects of their lives whether school, sports or activities. It's easy for kids today to get lost and we owe it to them to guide their success. Vegas like any other city is what you make out of it.
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Old 01-25-2018, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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No big secret that CCSD is one of the bottom school districts in the country. Not going to change until they change from a top-heavy bureaucracy where the schools and teachers are left to fend for themselves.

With that said, those who have read my posts through the years know my twins have thrived both at the elementary and middle school level. As parents, we have made it a priority to keep our kids challenged and they have responded. Next month, we find out if they will be attending A-Tech.

The key is being involved with all aspects of their lives whether school, sports or activities. It's easy for kids today to get lost and we owe it to them to guide their success. Vegas like any other city is what you make out of it.
We will simply have to differ in this one. I do not believe there is anything wrong with the top high schools. In fact the Clark magnet is actually better than Atech. Then again the good part of Clark is a magnet.

The admin overhead is simply untrue. CCSD was actually below average on the admin cost for a big school system. The real money problem is simply that the SW states do and always have shorted education. Simple as that.

An CCSD does reasonably well if compared to the other big systems with high percentages of low socioeconomic students.
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Old 01-26-2018, 12:49 AM
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This whole poor kids are dumb and dragging us down thing is incredibly racist and ignorant.


The fact is the way we educate kids in this country is backwards and wrong.
The BEST schools in the country, Mass, rank 9th in the world. The best of our best are 9th. That's not good.
America as a whole ranks way lower. It's not because we have poor kids. It's not because we have too little budgets. It's because we teach our kids garbage in garbage ways with garbage tools and equipment. The whole thing needs to be thrown in the trash.
The only useful things we teach our kids are reading and math. The rest is useless garbage. Half the math is garbage.
Tests are harmful and useless. Memorization is useless. This is all we do. Teach them to memorize crap and then test them on the crap. China emphasizes memorization and test prep. They're robots there.
Finland spends less per student than America, has far more teachers per student, has 1 test at 16 years old, and is the top of the world every year.

Ever watch that show Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?
That is an indictment of the American school system. It shows how much useless crap we teach and how little we retain.
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Old 01-26-2018, 05:52 AM
 
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We will simply have to differ in this one. I do not believe there is anything wrong with the top high schools. In fact the Clark magnet is actually better than Atech. Then again the good part of Clark is a magnet.

The admin overhead is simply untrue. CCSD was actually below average on the admin cost for a big school system. The real money problem is simply that the SW states do and always have shorted education. Simple as that.

An CCSD does reasonably well if compared to the other big systems with high percentages of low socioeconomic students.
Never said that they are bad; however, they may not offer the curriculum for a selected field. For example, my son wants to go into engineering. Neither of the local high schools offer a curriculum tailored to his field. Same with my daughter who wants to go into a dual I.T./Graphic Design field, she can't get that at the high schools. Only A-Tech has a curriculum tailored to both.

Now to the point CCSD isn't top heavy, ask yourself this if that's true then where is the money going because it's not going to the schools first. If it was, there wouldn't be issues with overcrowding or teachers filling positions. The central administration takes enough that the schools are left with scraps.

Unfortunately, teachers are pawns of the education lobbyists. They are left to fend for themselves with little to no support from their adminstration thus they leave the field.
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