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[Clarkcty]

^^^We'll just have to wait and see!

[lvoc]

Originally Posted by Clarkcty

So which one is it really? Where do you stand on this issue?

It's our water, we can store it in our aquifers and pump it when needed. It's our water allocation, we can use all of it or store some of it and other states can kiss my a$$.

I am not inconsistent. The law is. And exactly where it will cone down will be known when the Courts rule. Note that the neat and clean interpretation of the State Engineer was destroyed by the railroad when he attempted to close out unused water rights owned by the railroad. The problem was that the railroad used some water rights all the time and the SE could not demonstrate which ones where unused. So basicallty the railroad claimed that used all of their water rights some of the time.

SNWA has long claimed that they can store unused water rights in the aquifer. Until the try and reclaim that water it is not a real issue. So when they pump it, which may be never, and someone sues we will find out what the law actually is.

I don't much care for western water law. It is brain dead. The eastern law is not a lot better just different.

There has to be a better way

[Clarkcty]

Originally Posted by lvoc

I am not inconsistent. The law is. And exactly where it will cone down will be known when the Courts rule. Note that the neat and clean interpretation of the State Engineer was destroyed by the railroad when he attempted to close out unused water rights owned by the railroad. The problem was that the railroad used some water rights all the time and the SE could not demonstrate which ones where unused. So basicallty the railroad claimed that used all of their water rights some of the time.

SNWA has long claimed that they can store unused water rights in the aquifer. Until the try and reclaim that water it is not a real issue. So when they pump it, which may be never, and someone sues we will find out what the law actually is.

I don't much care for western water law. It is brain dead. The eastern law is not a lot better just different.

There has to be a better way

Aquifer is under Nevada land, pumping stations around Clark County are pumping ground water from these aquifers. Springs Preserve has working pumps all around the preserve. Nevadans have been pumping groundwater for decades. We need to replenish our groundwater table and if we have to use up all our allocation from the Colorado River so we can store some of it then so be it.

[Clarkcty]

Groundwater from aquifers under Nevada land and our share of water from the Colorado River by way of Lake Mead are two different sources of water for us here in Clark County.


Springs Preserve

[Clarkcty]

FYI for the new residents in town.

The Bellagio fountains use well water that exists under the property. The fountain does not use water from Lake Mead for its water show. Prior to the fountains, the former golf course in the area also used well water for its greens.

[UTES]

I've read the Bellagio fountains use recycled water.

Bill

[Raiderman]

Originally Posted by UTES

I've read the Bellagio fountains use recycled water.

Bill

No, that's a common myth..

The Bellagio fountains are mostly using well water that exists beneath the Bellagio landscape. That well water was used previously to maintain a golf course that previously existed there. The beauty of that is the current water use, because of the lake, represents only two-thirds of the water that was used before when the golf course existed, so in reality, the Bellagio uses less water than the golf course that use to be there before.

[delgadobb]

While the Bellagio fountains do replenish & supplement the 'lake' with well water, it's NON-DRINKABLE well water so it doesn't cut into water usage for essential day to day stuff. Pretty eco-friendly. Much of the water is recycled & it is filtered similar to a residential pool, but obviously on a much bigger scale. So, some truth in all of the above.

I saved a documentary piece on the fountains on my TIVO - it aired some time ago on Planet Green on the show "Really Big Things" (I believe Planet Green evolved into the channel Destination America.) If anyone gets a chance, watch it - they profile the behind the scenes working & maintenance of the Bellagio Fountains. The inner nerd in me found it interesting & entertaining.

[nickydim]

does anyone know how much and where the water being pumped from the aquifer below the Cosmo is going? Does it find it's way back into Lake Mead some how?

Built on 8.7 acres between MGM Resorts International’s Bellagio and CityCenter, Cosmopolitan’s 52-story towers loom over a series of swimming pools that overlook the city. The property’s narrow footprint forced the builders to dig deep, hitting an aquifer that requires the casino to pump groundwater from its subterranean parking garage 24 hours a day.

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The aquifer forms as runoff seeps into the ground and pools atop a layer of caliche, a cement-like rock, according to Bronson Mack, a spokesman at Las Vegas Valley Water District. Resorts often excavate through the caliche to build footings and parking garages, creating an ongoing need to pump water, Mack said.



“The relatively high water table on this site required the installation of a pump system and containment walls,’’ said Gallagher, the Deutsche Bank spokesman. “This is not uncommon for any Las Vegas project that includes underground parking or other underground facilities. The temporary certificate of occupancy for the entire parking garage, including the pumping system itself, was granted in February 2009, and we have encountered no problems whatsoever.