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Old 04-30-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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Pretty similar demand as other markets. Non-degreed roles are about the same everywhere where those who have specialized training or experience can find themselves in high demand while the sales and administrative roles are competing with outsourcing to and the rise of sales on the internet.

For the degree holder many IT and higher level accounting/finance roles are unfilled. But most of the bigger employers have been forced to go leaner so its variable as it is most everywhere.

Construction and service have most definitely taken the biggest hit and that has driven the unemployment rate so high for non-diploma/GED folks.
Hence, a degree in Econometrics & Mathematical Economics would get one a job instantly?
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:48 PM
 
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Hence, a degree in Econometrics & Mathematical Economics would get one a job instantly?
Straight out of school, probably not. With 3-5 years of relevant experience your chances get better. But something like that obviously has a limited pool of places to go looking for a position in
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:16 AM
 
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Straight out of school, probably not. With 3-5 years of relevant experience your chances get better. But something like that obviously has a limited pool of places to go looking for a position in
True, but I also got a Bachelor's degree in Finance, I hope this will increase my chances a little.
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:55 AM
 
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So far so good for the people without a diploma, but what about the people who do? Are they 'wanted' in Vegas or are they - as there are tons of jobs for which a diploma isn't required - not that necessary as you might expect when comparing to other parts of the country?
Of course they're wanted. First of all, in Las Vegas, anyone with a diploma from more than 100 miles away is considered an expert. That's an exaggeration of course, but my point is, Las Vegas is no different than any other city, except anywhere you go in the world different skills may be needed in different ratios more than others. Just means if there aren't a lot of choices you try harder. When I came to Las Vegas to look for a job in TV, there were only three stations, so it took me a month, and I had to take a lessor job than I wanted to start. Now Ch-3 has more news reporters than we had entire station staff back then.

What a person needs to concentrate on, and what is never taught in schools, is how to negotiate to get the best deal you can. Our old coach used to say, basketball is 10% skill and 90% luck. Well, finding a job is pretty much the same; 10% salesmanship, and negotiation skill, and 90% being in the right place at the right time. You've heard that a good salesman is persistent? A good job seeker is too. I used to hear my colleagues at JobConnect always tell people not to keep going back to the same employer. I would tell them, B*** S***! None of them ever did any hiring. I did, for 32 years. The persistent ones that you were so tired of seeing you would find excuses to not be in the office when they showed up are the first ones you think of when you need someone. Experience and diplomas? That's nice if you've got them, but they are the least important things IMO. Being able to convince somebody they need you and only you is the important thing.

Example: Ch-3 and I parted company about four times now. The first time, I needed a job so I made up my my mind that sales was where the money is in broadcasting. I had never sold radio before so thought I'd try it. When you start a new job you are supposed to find someone you can communicate with, find out what is needed and wanted, and produce it. I did it backwards. I went to the manager and let him know what I needed and wanted and let him produce it - a job. It was just a bit of finding confidence I didn't know I had, and the poor guy didn't have a chance. Of course when I went to work the following Monday, I had to do the steps of a new employee, but there I wuz - couldn't even spel selzmun, but now I wuz one.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:15 AM
 
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Of course they're wanted. First of all, in Las Vegas, anyone with a diploma from more than 100 miles away is considered an expert. That's an exaggeration of course, but my point is, Las Vegas is no different than any other city, except anywhere you go in the world different skills may be needed in different ratios more than others. Just means if there aren't a lot of choices you try harder. When I came to Las Vegas to look for a job in TV, there were only three stations, so it took me a month, and I had to take a lessor job than I wanted to start. Now Ch-3 has more news reporters than we had entire station staff back then.

What a person needs to concentrate on, and what is never taught in schools, is how to negotiate to get the best deal you can. Our old coach used to say, basketball is 10% skill and 90% luck. Well, finding a job is pretty much the same; 10% salesmanship, and negotiation skill, and 90% being in the right place at the right time. You've heard that a good salesman is persistent? A good job seeker is too. I used to hear my colleagues at JobConnect always tell people not to keep going back to the same employer. I would tell them, B*** S***! None of them ever did any hiring. I did, for 32 years. The persistent ones that you were so tired of seeing you would find excuses to not be in the office when they showed up are the first ones you think of when you need someone. Experience and diplomas? That's nice if you've got them, but they are the least important things IMO. Being able to convince somebody they need you and only you is the important thing.

Example: Ch-3 and I parted company about four times now. The first time, I needed a job so I made up my my mind that sales was where the money is in broadcasting. I had never sold radio before so thought I'd try it. When you start a new job you are supposed to find someone you can communicate with, find out what is needed and wanted, and produce it. I did it backwards. I went to the manager and let him know what I needed and wanted and let him produce it - a job. It was just a bit of finding confidence I didn't know I had, and the poor guy didn't have a chance. Of course when I went to work the following Monday, I had to do the steps of a new employee, but there I wuz - couldn't even spel selzmun, but now I wuz one.
I must say, people in Las Vegas tell very different stories about the job market there. I have gathered some other information in the past; some people say that if you want a job in the casinos, you have to know somebody who works there but that for the rest of the companies, it is no problem. Others say there are plenty of jobs for qualified people (read: have an academic degree) and other people say that Las Vegas was hit hard by the crisis (of which I know that it is true), hence, no jobs.

What to believe? Let me make it more specific. I am currently living in Europe, let's assume I am eligible to work in the US. I have a Bachelor's degree in Business Administration, field of expertise: finance, and a Master's Degree in Mathematical Economics. I am fluent in English, as well as French and Dutch, I have participated in extracurricular activities during my studies and have had a job (one day a week) aside. What are the chances of getting a job in Vegas(or any other city in the US, but as Buzz123 stated, there is no significant difference)?
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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Of course they're wanted. First of all, in Las Vegas, anyone with a diploma from more than 100 miles away is considered an expert. That's an exaggeration of course, but my point is, Las Vegas is no different than any other city, except anywhere you go in the world different skills may be needed in different ratios more than others. Just means if there aren't a lot of choices you try harder. When I came to Las Vegas to look for a job in TV, there were only three stations, so it took me a month, and I had to take a lessor job than I wanted to start. Now Ch-3 has more news reporters than we had entire station staff back then.

What a person needs to concentrate on, and what is never taught in schools, is how to negotiate to get the best deal you can. Our old coach used to say, basketball is 10% skill and 90% luck. Well, finding a job is pretty much the same; 10% salesmanship, and negotiation skill, and 90% being in the right place at the right time. You've heard that a good salesman is persistent? A good job seeker is too. I used to hear my colleagues at JobConnect always tell people not to keep going back to the same employer. I would tell them, B*** S***! None of them ever did any hiring. I did, for 32 years. The persistent ones that you were so tired of seeing you would find excuses to not be in the office when they showed up are the first ones you think of when you need someone. Experience and diplomas? That's nice if you've got them, but they are the least important things IMO. Being able to convince somebody they need you and only you is the important thing.

Example: Ch-3 and I parted company about four times now. The first time, I needed a job so I made up my my mind that sales was where the money is in broadcasting. I had never sold radio before so thought I'd try it. When you start a new job you are supposed to find someone you can communicate with, find out what is needed and wanted, and produce it. I did it backwards. I went to the manager and let him know what I needed and wanted and let him produce it - a job. It was just a bit of finding confidence I didn't know I had, and the poor guy didn't have a chance. Of course when I went to work the following Monday, I had to do the steps of a new employee, but there I wuz - couldn't even spel selzmun, but now I wuz one.

Exactly.. It's kind of like when a man is going after a woman. You have to constantly stay in her face. Every time she turns around you have to be there.. As far as sales goes this older guy once told me when doing sales calls you have to walk in like you own the place and don't take any s___ from anyone. Then again this guy was sick and tired of being sick and tired of being broke..So he made it happen..
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:31 PM
 
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Well, at the risk of going all airie-fairie on y'all, it's called intention. The only real power a being has is the power of intention ...but then ya gotta DO something to make it happen. Just thinking about it won't do nuthin.

Make it so, Mr Sulu.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:50 PM
 
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OPs question makes no sense. Nevada is 18th in wages (with who knows how much in undeclared tips), and has a below average cost of living.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:39 PM
 
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When I visited for my interview, I couldn't get over the number of luxury cars on the road.....more than average for any city in the US. Yet I am in one of the most economincally devestated parts of the country????
Visiting.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:45 PM
 
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Well, at the risk of going all airie-fairie on y'all, it's called intention. The only real power a being has is the power of intention ...but then ya gotta DO something to make it happen. Just thinking about it won't do nuthin.

Make it so, Mr Sulu.
"So what is your goal? Say it out loud right now, and let it be for the greatest good of all. Then say to the universe, “Make it so.” Wait for the synchronicities and unusual coincidences to arrive. Follow them where they want to lead you, even if it seems strange at first. Allow your goal to manifest."

Cause-Effect vs. Intention-Manifestation
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