Interesting trends in growth in MO and KS from 2012 to 2013 (Overland: apartment, crime rates)

[kcmo]

New population estimates are out and I think Kansas may want to take a look at the numbers. Brownback may be starting to have an impact on the state and I can only imagine how the numbers would be if you took Johnson County out of the equation.

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

Numerical Growth Rank Change Between 2010-2011 and 2012-2013

1. Ohio: +18
2. Michigan: +16
3. North Dakota: +14
4. Nevada: +11
5. Missouri: +6
6. Montana: +6
7. South Dakota: +6
8. Idaho: +5
9. Colorado: +4
10. Oklahoma: +4
11. South Carolina: +4
12. Rhode Island: +3
13. Wyoming: +3
14. Arizona: +2
15. Hawaii: +2
16. Indiana: +2
17. Nebraska: +2
18. North Carolina: +2
19. Iowa: +1
20. Utah: +1
21. Washington: +1
22. California: 0
23. Delaware: 0
24. Florida: 0
25. Massachusetts: 0
26. Minnesota: 0
27. New Hampshire: 0
28. Puerto Rico: 0
29. Texas: 0
30. Alabama: -1
31. Georgia: -1
32. Maine: -1
33. Vermont: -1
34. Louisiana: -2
35. Oregon: -2
36. Tennessee: -2
37. Wisconsin: -2
38. Maryland: -3
39. Mississippi: -3
40. New Jersey: -3
41. Virginia: -3
42. Alaska: -4
43. Kansas: -5
44. Kentucky: -5
45. New York: -5
46. West Virginia: -5
47. Washington DC: -6
48. Connecticut: -7
49. Illinois: -7
50. Arkansas: -12
51. New Mexico: -13
52. Pennsylvania: -21

So basically, while not showing total numerical changes, it does show which states slowed down and which states had their growth rates increase. The Midwest did very well, with 8 states in the top 20. The Mountain West had 5, the South 3, the Southwest 2, the Northeast 1 and the West 2.

[luzianne]

So Brownback is affecting Washington DC too, I see. And he's REALLY screwing up Pennsylvania! Or maybe it's all George W. Bush's fault!!

[joshmvf]

Not a great metric by any means, but I can see kcmo couldn't help himself. I've never understood why locations are judged by population growth or the amount of buildings going up. What about happiness, education, things that actually matter? As long as kcmo insists on clogging up this forum with his personal problems, I figured I'd throw out some facts as well.

Fastest growing states:

Missouri: 29
Kansas: 33

Most educated state:

Kansas: 16
Missouri: 35

Unemployment:

Kansas: 5.1
Missouri: 6.1

Richest states by median income:

Kansas: 26
Missouri: 39

Crime index (lower is better):

Kansas: 1603
Missouri: 1788
DC: 3701, almost double the next worst

US counties ranked by highest median income:

JoCo: 88
Platte: 164

US counties ranked by average education:

JoCo: 19
Platte: 110

source: USA.com Rankings Search

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by luzianne

So Brownback is affecting Washington DC too, I see. And he's REALLY screwing up Pennsylvania! Or maybe it's all George W. Bush's fault!!

Washington DC is booming big time. They have so many new apartment buildings going up that even though they might have slowed last year (sure doesn't seem like it), they are still going gang busters adding 15k people a year. The whole government spending cuts and other nonsense probably had some short term impacts on DC as well. I don't think the same can be said about Kansas.

PA, couldn't tell you. Don't know much about what goes on in PA.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by joshmvf

Not a great metric by any means, but I can see kcmo couldn't help himself. I've never understood why locations are judged by population growth or the amount of buildings going up. What about happiness, education, things that actually matter? As long as kcmo insists on clogging up this forum with his personal problems, I figured I'd throw out some facts as well.

Fastest growing states:

Missouri: 29
Kansas: 33

Most educated state:

Kansas: 16
Missouri: 35

Unemployment:

Kansas: 5.1
Missouri: 6.1

Richest states by median income:

Kansas: 26
Missouri: 39

Crime index (lower is better):

Kansas: 1603
Missouri: 1788
DC: 3701, almost double the next worst

US counties ranked by highest median income:

JoCo: 88
Platte: 164

US counties ranked by average education:

JoCo: 19
Platte: 110

source: USA.com Rankings Search

None of this really has anything to do with my post which only stated that KS has taken a hit for some reason. Yea, it's vague, but that's what forums are for, to debate and think about what may be causing it. I know, we don't discuss this type of stuff in the KC forum but, I would wonder what's going on when a state spends money like water to poach jobs from Missouri while deeply cutting education revenue etc. Something does not seem to be working, but again, we don't talk about that in Kansas. Probably one of the only states where its residents are so clueless about what happens in their capital and yet just don't care or even want to ask questions. So long as life is good in Overland Park, that's all that matters in Kansas.

Oh and again, take joco out of the equation and where would KS fall in your analysis? Probably bottom five in almost any category.

And one last thing. You only chose to compare crime stats of DC to MO and KS and nothing else? If you really know what you are talking about, you would know that even though DC is treated a state for statistical reasons, it's a city and comparing it to a state in any stat makes zero sense (including the one I posted above). DC will always have higher crime rates than any state for hopefully obvious reasons.

[SPonteKC]

Originally Posted by kcmo

Oh and again, take joco out of the equation and where would KS fall in your analysis? Probably bottom five in almost any category.

Couldn't you say that about almost anywhere if you removed its wealthiest and most populated metro area?

[JackieB23]

This ranking says nothing. Texas at "0"? It's booming.

[MRG Dallas]

"Oh and again, take joco out of the equation and where would KS fall in your analysis? Probably bottom five in almost any category."

Ok, take Federal employees out the equation . . .

"The whole government spending cuts and other nonsense . . .

Government spending cuts? Don't make us laugh

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by JackieB23

This ranking says nothing. Texas at "0"? It's booming.

And that boom is consistent and stable that's why it's 0. Never mind. I guess this is just not the forum for this.

So back to the typical city conversation here.

Where is a safe place with the best schools to raise me little family moving to town? It has to be the safest and the best schools! Thanks!

[luzianne]

Originally Posted by kcmo

Washington DC is booming big time. They have so many new apartment buildings going up that even though they might have slowed last year (sure doesn't seem like it), they are still going gang busters adding 15k people a year. The whole government spending cuts and other nonsense probably had some short term impacts on DC as well. I don't think the same can be said about Kansas.

PA, couldn't tell you. Don't know much about what goes on in PA.

I was going by the numbers you posted. you might want to look at them again. Here you go:

43. Kansas: -5
44. Kentucky: -5
45. New York: -5
46. West Virginia: -5
47. Washington DC: -6
48. Connecticut: -7
49. Illinois: -7
50. Arkansas: -12
51. New Mexico: -13
52. Pennsylvania: -21