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Old 05-10-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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I read this article today:

Israel police guard women praying at Jewish site

My solution: Divide the Wall into 3 sections; men, women, and liberals. In the sections for men and women, traditional Jewish law should apply. In the liberal section, women can wear their prayer shawls and they can all have orgies or do whatever it is that liberals do. Of course this section should be walled off so that decent people don't have to see the liberals.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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The Women of the Wall are about a divisive a force on the Jewish people as you'll find anywhere in the world. Many here in this forum probably admire these women. I find their actions to be disgusting. I assume they only want what they feel they deserve, but it's clear they're willing to do it at the cost of dividing the Jewish nation on itself. On purpose or not, their actions are murderous to K'lal Yisroel.

Good people will put their own needs and wants to the side sometimes, for the betterment of the nation as a whole. These women can't see that. They may be right in what they want, but the cost is too high, and they just don't care. And that's a million times worse than their untzniusdik behavior.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:47 PM
 
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the media bias here is amazing. there trying to turn this in to charadi MEN attack woman because they are praying.

clearly missing the fact that it's because the tallis and teflin (which is assur because of yuhara)
also missing the fact that it was the women FOR the wall who set up the protest of 1000's of women coming to the kosel to daven before the woman of the wall got there.

If the media had even an ounce of integrity they would show that by far most of the women there were against the women of the wall and were there to protest by davining normally.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:49 PM
 
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here's a video that the media doesn't show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5zXj_W9Msk
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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The Women off the Wall think that Israelis are American Jews who will put up with their divisive and heretical idiocy.
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Old 05-12-2013, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Not touching this topic with a 10-amot pole
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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Not touching this topic with a 10-amot pole
Me neither, my friend. No way.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:36 PM
 
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The Women off the Wall think that Israelis are American Jews who will put up with their divisive and heretical idiocy.
Perhaps "passionate" would be a better descriptive term than idiocy, no? They certainly are passionate, I'll give them that.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:33 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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The Women of the Wall are about a divisive a force on the Jewish people as you'll find anywhere in the world. Many here in this forum probably admire these women. I find their actions to be disgusting. I assume they only want what they feel they deserve, but it's clear they're willing to do it at the cost of dividing the Jewish nation on itself. On purpose or not, their actions are murderous to K'lal Yisroel.

Good people will put their own needs and wants to the side sometimes, for the betterment of the nation as a whole. These women can't see that. They may be right in what they want, but the cost is too high, and they just don't care. And that's a million times worse than their untzniusdik behavior.
Since the fall of the Tal Law, its a sign that Israel is moving forward as the Haredi lose their power base. The Kotel belongs to all Jews. Why should men be allowed to dress in a immodest manner at the Kotel and the Haredi say nothing, but yet believe that they should tell woman how they should act and dress on their extremely smaller side of the panel?

The nation as a whole wants to move forward. The Haredi are not getting people to become more religious, they are growing their numbers by having more children and brainwashing them into thinking they are better than everyone else and should all be treated as Kohenim. You talk about a person in another thread as a "taker", yet you are blind to an entire community of "takers" in Israel.
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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This is Israel forward thinking:

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Push to have more women on panel that selects rabbinic judges
Israel Hayom | Push to have more women on panel that selects rabbinic judges
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