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Every one should understand you are quoting a website, failed messiah, that is a gathering place for apakorites and off the derech former frum Yidden. It's about the angriest "Jewish" website out there. How appropriate.
Every one should understand you are quoting a website, failed messiah, that is a gathering place for apakorites and off the derech former frum Yidden. It's about the angriest "Jewish" website out there. How appropriate.
I had a feeling you might say that. That's why I posted TWO links. As anyone can see you made a strongly negative statement about the first link yet you had no comment for the second which basically stated the same thing.
As anyone can see you made a strongly negative statement about the first link yet you had no comment for the second which basically stated the same thing.
...and if Israel Radio said so, it must be so. Not saying it wasn't; I wasn't there, but Israel Radio is no unbiased source. I think these women should try the temple mount. They'll get a lot more than water bottles and spitting--if they were, indeed, spat upon.
They're lucky they tried this in 2013 and not in the midbar where they might have been killed.
...and if Israel Radio said so, it must be so. Not saying it wasn't; I wasn't there, but Israel Radio is no unbiased source. I think these women should try the temple mount. They'll get a lot more than water bottles and spitting--if they were, indeed, spat upon.
They're lucky they tried this in 2013 and not in the midbar where they might have been killed.
And what happens when the Jewish males try to enter the temple mount?
And what does 2013 and the wilderness (midbar) have to do with anything? Are you now advocating that women should be killed?
One of the earlier 19th-century accounts quoted by Adler in his 1930 Memorandum was William Bartlett’s illustrated Walks About the City
and Environs of Jerusalem (1844). “We repaired to this place on a Friday,”
wrote Bartlett of his 1842 visit, “when a considerable number [of Jews] usually
assemble.” In the wall’s shadow, on the right, “were seated many venerable men,
reading the books of the law.” But there were also, he noted, “many women in
their long white robes, who, as they entered the small area, walked along the
sacred wall, kissing its ancient masonry, and praying through the crevices with
every appearance of deep devotion.” Bartlett did not describe the men and women
as sitting apart, but as pursuing different kinds of activities. The men, who
were presumably more literate, were sitting and reading, while the women walked
along the wall, kissed its stones, and prayed through their crevices with
evident devotion. Whereas the “venerable men” did not seem to be dressed in any
distinctive manner, the British artist commented on the women’s “long white
robes”—which may have been donned in honor of the approaching Sabbath.
Those women were tzniusdik. They did not wear shorts, low cut blouses and the similar clothing of the goyim.
And your point?
BTW translation is needed for the general public. Couldn't you just as easily stated in a manner for all to understand?
tzniyus means more than just the secular concepts of modesty and privacy. There are major aspects of modest and privacy to be sure, but tzniyus also includes an aspect of humility and an aspect of dignity. Tzniyus refers not only to dress, but also to speech, actions and comportment.
My point is that if we Jews are to decide to make the kosel like a co-ed bathhouse, it will exclude a significant number of Jews from being able to daven at our nations holiest site. As it currently stands, the site is available for all. Wide open. You want to change that. I can't understand why.
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