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Old 11-21-2013, 12:42 PM
 
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Through a little googling, I managed to find the HR director for a company I would like to apply for an open position I found via indeed.com. I am not sure if this person would be the one to schedule initial interviews or not as it seems to be a midsize company (10,000+ employees workdwide).

Should I send my resume to this person's email, go through the firm's career website to apply or both?
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:45 PM
 
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You need to network/connect with the hiring manager, not the HR person.
Presumably you know the person or know someone who can introduce you right?
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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Don't know who the hiring manager would be.

ETA: Found this via indeed.com, I know no one at this company at all.

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Old 11-21-2013, 02:28 PM
 
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I would go through the career website. Randomly sending an email to the HR director, whom you don't even know if he has any role in the hiring process, will just land you in the trash.

Human resources depts entail a lot more than just hiring. I'd be willing to bet the director simply manages the people doing the grunt work...it's a waste of your time.
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:33 PM
 
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I would go through the career website. Randomly sending an email to the HR director, whom you don't even know if he has any role in the hiring process, will just land you in the trash.

Human resources depts entail a lot more than just hiring. I'd be willing to bet the director simply manages the people doing the grunt work...it's a waste of your time.
yup. If you don't know the HR director it will get deleted. In my company we have people that are technically HR directors that have absolutely nothing to do with recruiting.
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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Send it where they want you to send it. If it is a company of any size (or even if it is not) the HR Director doesn't have anything to do with hiring, screening resumes, etc.
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Old 11-21-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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Send it where they want you to send it. If it is a company of any size (or even if it is not) the HR Director doesn't have anything to do with hiring, screening resumes, etc.
Not sure where you get that info, but there are a lot of factors in this. If it's a company with a local, actual and trained HR Department (not pseudo HR), even a third-party HR Dept, chances are they are the ones posting and screening the job, if this is for skilled labor. If it's a non-local HR for a low-skilled workforce (ie, the corporate office is out of state and they're hiring for laborers), chances are the HR dept approves the posting to ensure compliance in the text (ie, so that managers/supervisors dont violate ADA or other discrimination clauses), may set up where resumes go and forward them to the appropriate party with or without review by them.

As far as whether to send it to the HR manager... the answer will always be that it depends. Some managers will be irritated you're sending that to their private email, as they have obviously set up a means for resumes to be filtered. Some may applaud your research and pass it along. Some may not care either way. Is this a big company for an entry level job? Is this a small company? Specialized labor? There is a reason they've set up different means to submit a resume... because they want it separate from their own email. They have things to do, and getting dozens of responses is not their favorite way to pass the time, while trying to fish out things that affect their own day-to-day operations.

To be honest, I'm a bit surprised of people who have said that their HR dept has nothing to do with recruiting. What a scary company that'd be. I'm in HR, and we give our managers out of state free range on hiring and firing, limited rehiring. But we do screen their job postings to make sure we're not going to get sued. For low skilled workers, we dont really review the resumes and just pass it along indiscriminately. For higher levels, we do review and screen, then forward it to the appropriate parties.
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Old 11-21-2013, 04:57 PM
 
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Are you on LinkedIN? It's a great tool to find out more about a company and the people that work there. They could even have the same job posted on LI.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:10 PM
 
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Not sure where you get that info, but there are a lot of factors in this. If it's a company with a local, actual and trained HR Department (not pseudo HR), even a third-party HR Dept, chances are they are the ones posting and screening the job, if this is for skilled labor. If it's a non-local HR for a low-skilled workforce (ie, the corporate office is out of state and they're hiring for laborers), chances are the HR dept approves the posting to ensure compliance in the text (ie, so that managers/supervisors dont violate ADA or other discrimination clauses), may set up where resumes go and forward them to the appropriate party with or without review by them.

As far as whether to send it to the HR manager... the answer will always be that it depends. Some managers will be irritated you're sending that to their private email, as they have obviously set up a means for resumes to be filtered. Some may applaud your research and pass it along. Some may not care either way. Is this a big company for an entry level job? Is this a small company? Specialized labor? There is a reason they've set up different means to submit a resume... because they want it separate from their own email. They have things to do, and getting dozens of responses is not their favorite way to pass the time, while trying to fish out things that affect their own day-to-day operations.

To be honest, I'm a bit surprised of people who have said that their HR dept has nothing to do with recruiting. What a scary company that'd be. I'm in HR, and we give our managers out of state free range on hiring and firing, limited rehiring. But we do screen their job postings to make sure we're not going to get sued. For low skilled workers, we dont really review the resumes and just pass it along indiscriminately. For higher levels, we do review and screen, then forward it to the appropriate parties.
That post is absolutely correct. The HR director position is a strategic position. There is almost no way that person is responsible for the day-to-day hiring. My director has no idea what I do on a daily basis. He finds out through updates with me (irregularly) and weekly updates from my hiring manager at a high level.

HR is a huge entity. There is no way to know whether that HR director has oversight of recruiting or not. Perhaps you work for a small company where HR is all-encompassing. I work in HR we have absolutely nothing to do with the day-to-day job posting and hiring. Recruiting does. I work in Organizational Effectiveness, within HR. There is also HR systems, HR generalists, etc. None of those would have anything to do with recruiting or general day to day hiring outside of their specific area.
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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Well, as to where I got the info, with just a little bit of due diligence, and ingenuity, you can find what you are looking for. Whether or not they are involved in the selection process, I have no idea. But I know for a fact that just submitting to the website and hoping for the best will get me nowhere. That is why I want to submit a resume to, and connect with someone on linkedin that works there.

The firm itself is about 100 employees at the location the job is located at, but is part of a larger entity.

Alot of website suggest calling the company and asking who the hiring manager is. I could do this, but I imagine that this approach would not get very far, and I don't want to give myself any disadvantages.
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