Indiana Senate Race (Holland, Greensboro: condo, crime, vouchers)

[analyze_this]

Cannot believe anyone in their right mind would vote for Murdock after his disgusting comments on women. It would be the same as voting for Taliban - shame on the citizens of Indiana if they will still vote for this guy just because he is a Republican.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by X-Greensboro Resident

Nope! Not according to Murdock and Pence's god.... My god loves all.

Their god reminds me of a norse god like Odin or something.

[cubssoxfan]

Why do the R's spend so much time on social issue when improving the economy and eliminating bi-partisanship has almost universal appeal to voters from all backgrounds? Oh, that's right, the party of Reagan is now the Tea-bag stained party of Dr. No; Mitch McConnell, who I dislike even more than Harry Reid- and I'm an R. Ironic that the party that blocks gun reform preventing handgun deaths wants to tell women what to do with their bodies to prevent deaths, hypocrisy in my mind. And since the topic of rape came up, why aren't politicians discussing castration of rapists instead of insinuating that "it's the woman's fault"? If men had babies, do you think the male leaders would be as anti-abortion, idiotically narrow minded about rape and anti-contraception? Tell me how eliminating Planned Parenthood decreases the chances of needing an abortion. Isn't it easier to prevent a pregnancy instead of terminating one?

Their god reminds me of a norse god like Odin or something

Actually guys like Murdock remind me of the rabbi's and money changers that Jesus called out.

[indy_317]

Originally Posted by cubssoxfan

Why do the R's spend so much time on social issue when improving the economy and eliminating bi-partisanship has almost universal appeal to voters from all backgrounds? Ironic that the party that blocks gun reform preventing handgun deaths wants to tell women what to do with their bodies to prevent deaths, hypocrisy in my mind.

They view the unborn baby as a separate life. It is that simple and has to do with the right to life. With gun control, that has more to do with the rights of grown individuals having the right to self-protection from both criminals and an out-of-control government. I find the whole abortion thing intriguing. If a woman has a kid and the father wants no part of the kid, isn't involved in the kid's life, essentially 'aborting' his parental obligations, he would be slammed by the pro-abortion folks on here. However, if the lady would have just killed the kid before it was even born, the liberals would be OK with that. Talk about hypocrisy.

As far as the God issue, I'm not sure why they think they need to interject their God's will onto others? If a woman has an abortion, under some beliefs, her soul in the afterlife will go to hell. Since there is already punishment in place under their belief system, I'm not sure why they feel the need to use the law to force their beliefs onto others.

[artemis]

Originally Posted by cubssoxfan

Why do the R's spend so much time on social issue when improving the economy and eliminating bi-partisanship has almost universal appeal to voters from all backgrounds? Oh, that's right, the party of Reagan is now the Tea-bag stained party of Dr. No; Mitch McConnell, who I dislike even more than Harry Reid- and I'm an R. Ironic that the party that blocks gun reform preventing handgun deaths wants to tell women what to do with their bodies to prevent deaths, hypocrisy in my mind. And since the topic of rape came up, why aren't politicians discussing castration of rapists instead of insinuating that "it's the woman's fault"? If men had babies, do you think the male leaders would be as anti-abortion, idiotically narrow minded about rape and anti-contraception? Tell me how eliminating Planned Parenthood decreases the chances of needing an abortion. Isn't it easier to prevent a pregnancy instead of terminating one?


Actually guys like Murdock remind me of the rabbi's and money changers that Jesus called out.

Castration would be cruel & unusual punishment. Lawmakers would never let that happen.

[domergurl]

Originally Posted by analyze_this

Cannot believe anyone in their right mind would vote for Murdock after his disgusting comments on women. It would be the same as voting for Taliban - shame on the citizens of Indiana if they will still vote for this guy just because he is a Republican.

And now the Mourdock charm offensive has started ... commercials with him and his wife hand in hand ... "ohhhhhh, that Donnelly twisted his words" ... Um, it was pretty clear what he said and what he meant.

Karl Rove FAIL.

[wh15395]

Originally Posted by indy_317

They view the unborn baby as a separate life. It is that simple and has to do with the right to life. With gun control, that has more to do with the rights of grown individuals having the right to self-protection from both criminals and an out-of-control government. I find the whole abortion thing intriguing. If a woman has a kid and the father wants no part of the kid, isn't involved in the kid's life, essentially 'aborting' his parental obligations, he would be slammed by the pro-abortion folks on here. However, if the lady would have just killed the kid before it was even born, the liberals would be OK with that. Talk about hypocrisy.

As far as the God issue, I'm not sure why they think they need to interject their God's will onto others? If a woman has an abortion, under some beliefs, her soul in the afterlife will go to hell. Since there is already punishment in place under their belief system, I'm not sure why they feel the need to use the law to force their beliefs onto others.

Well a big point of being pro-choice is that there are now far less instances of the father "aborting" his parental obligations than there would be if abortion was illegal. Also, we don't consider abortion killing a baby, at least I don't. I know this sounds a little insensitive, but do you consider eating an egg murdering a chicken?

[domergurl]

Originally Posted by wh15395

Well a big point of being pro-choice is that there are now far less instances of the father "aborting" his parental obligations than there would be if abortion was illegal. Also, we don't consider abortion killing a baby, at least I don't. I know this sounds a little insensitive, but do you consider eating an egg murdering a chicken?

The eggs we eat aren't fertilized ... although balut is a delicacy in some parts of the world.

A majority of pro-choice folks choose not to abort. That gets lost on the anti-choice people.

[grmasterb]

Originally Posted by wh15395

Well a big point of being pro-choice is that there are now far less instances of the father "aborting" his parental obligations than there would be if abortion was illegal. Also, we don't consider abortion killing a baby, at least I don't. I know this sounds a little insensitive, but do you consider eating an egg murdering a chicken?

I'd like to think that folks on both sides of the abortion debate can agree that we should be doing everything we can to eliminate abortion. I just don't believe that criminalizing the procedure will bring us closer to that goal, rather we should strive to eliminate unintended pregnancies.

The bigger problem I see with Mourdock's position is that it advocates putting the government in the position of forcing a woman to carry to term the product of a violent crime committed against her. And such a position is espoused by a man who supposedly advocates less government.

[Gustav Halbach]

I was born and raised in the Netherlands (Holland). My homeland has some of the most lenient abortion policies of any nation. Basically, it's on demand for any reason. However, Holland also one of the lowest abortion rates in the industrialized world. I've always thought that the reason for this is the State does care what happens to people in my homeland. New mothers & babies are protected by several national policies designed to insure a good start.

It seems to me, and I could be wrong, but that in the USA politicians care a great deal about the unborn but, once the birth has happened....mother/child and family are on their own. Kind of sink or swim.

-G