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Old 01-11-2010, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Originally Posted by Redrover View Post
I think you're missing the point which is that the very act itself of crossing a soverign border should come with consequences. This isn't to say that we should shoot every illegal who crosses in to our country but we sure as heck should not be rewarding them either. It is every country's right to control access to its soverign territory and we are doing a really pi$$-poor job of doing that. I think it's safe to say that none of those hard-line examples ever have to worry about large numbers of anybody sneaking in to their countries and disappearing; we however, do.
Bravo! We not only don't discourage people from crossing the borders, we encourage it through our actions. It needs to stop.

 
Old 01-11-2010, 11:15 AM
 
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Given that liberals revere those countries as model states it is rather surprising they aren't chomping at the bit to follow their lead on illegal immigration.
Strawman much?
 
Old 01-11-2010, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Originally Posted by Yes/no View Post
IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.
IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.
IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.
IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.
IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO
POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.
Sounds like you would prefer a communist country...
 
Old 01-11-2010, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
Strawman much?
This place is logical fallacy 101, it's all they got. When they aren't building a false premise, they are claiming everybody is "Scared" of them. Their arguments are as watered down and juvenile as possible. You see, the terrorists just hate us for "our freedom", it's that simple! Obama wants to control our lives....see how easy it is?
 
Old 01-11-2010, 11:26 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by mensaguy View Post
Show where a person, simply because he/she crossed the border illegally, got these things. Otherwise, it looks like trolling to me.

Let me point you to the sub-forum of this... Illegal immigration

Scroll to the top, and click around. No trolling here. Only Americans fighting the anti-Americans
 
Old 01-11-2010, 11:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Sounds like you would prefer a communist country...
We can be selective. It hasn't stopped us in the past.
They get something right and you feel the whole thing changes?
What an incomplete spin, now.
 
Old 01-11-2010, 11:31 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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I hate to say this it isnt going to stop unless their own country can give them what they need. They really dont want to come here. They dont want to leave their families. They just want to be able to provide for their family so they come here.

I dont support illegals being here. I think we need to be more active in sending them back. But I can also understand their reasons for come here.
 
Old 01-11-2010, 11:39 AM
 
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We can be selective. It hasn't stopped us in the past.
They get something right and you feel the whole thing changes?
What an incomplete spin, now.
So we just shoot them on sight? Are you suggesting we suspend due process for anything involving illegal immigration? What's next . . . summary execution for anyone found texting while operating a motor vehicle?
 
Old 01-11-2010, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Originally Posted by stan4 View Post
Yes, because liking one set of philosophies is the same as embracing them all.

Logic much? Guess not.
Immigration policy is a pretty substantial issue. Not to mention the GOP's platform is disturbingly consistent with some of the governments of the aforementioned nations in terms of desired level of hostility, diplomacy (or lack of ), nationalized religion, etc.
 
Old 01-11-2010, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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LaRaza(the Race) is the Hispanic and Latino's version of the KKK
And if they hate whites, blacks, Jews, etc why would they come to America?
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