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Old 11-07-2020, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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I knew this would happen, but now that Biden has been elected, this will be a great win for illegal immigration! Now we can focus on a path to citizenship for all our fellow Americans!
If they need a path to citizenship they aren't our fellow Americans.
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:41 PM
 
Location: The Sunshine State of Mind
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Now we can focus on a path to citizenship for all our fellow Americans!
I believe we differ on the definition of fellow Americans.
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Old 11-07-2020, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Metropolis
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If illegals are amnestied, I hope poor Americans who voted for Biden understand that they just added millions of people that will compete with them for government benefits. Trump might look like a big meanie, but the rubber meats the road at your everyday ability to pay bills and eat.

Yet another gift to cheap labor hustlers. Neither party represents their constituents. Forgot the communist boogeyman, rampant capitalism will be the end of this country and the global ecosystem. Any climate advances made under Biden will be 2x negated by adding 10’s of millions to a high carbon/pollution emitting country such as ours.
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Old 11-08-2020, 07:00 AM
 
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I believe we differ on the definition of fellow Americans.
Not just differ but no one is a citizen aka an American unless they hold citizenship papers. That's just a fact not an opinion.
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Old 11-08-2020, 07:19 AM
 
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I knew this would happen, but now that Biden has been elected, this will be a great win for illegal immigration! Now we can focus on a path to citizenship for all our fellow Americans!
You are gross. Illegals don’t deserve the us freedom. Don’t have enough to go around
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Old 11-08-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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Undocumented residents are people, no better or worse than citizens. Citizenship just happens to be a status. But that doesn't invalidate people's humanity and to think that undocumented people are somehow "less than" is lizard brain tribalist mularky.

Let them all in, it will make our nation better.
You are free to open up your home to all. Your home is a status on paper.
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Old 11-08-2020, 08:41 AM
 
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Bad analogy.

America isn't just your home, so it's not just your say. It's home to all residents. Even if you thought you had some claim to America being "yours", it's not. It's shares with hundreds of millions. You don't "own" it any more than other person, just as one race/culture/religion/status doesn't "own" it over any other.

The more appropriate analogy to xenophobic racist anti-immigrant sentiment is "we shouldn't allow just anyone to travel into Grand Central Station because some trains come from cities with football teams I don't like..."
Who's xenophobic, racist and anti-immigrant? Not most people and illegal aliens aren't plain ole "immigrants" either and it is the former we object to not the latter. Why do you and yours always get that *** backwards?
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Old 11-08-2020, 08:44 AM
 
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Undocumented residents are people, no better or worse than citizens. Citizenship just happens to be a status. But that doesn't invalidate people's humanity and to think that undocumented people are somehow "less than" is lizard brain tribalist mularky.

Let them all in, it will make our nation better.
No such thing as an undocumented that's a made up PC term for illegal aliens. Yes, they are worse than law abiding Americans who don't violate another nation's borders illegally. Humanity has nothing to do with it. Humans do commit crimes. Is that news to you?

The tribalism is on the part of those who share an ethnicity with these illegal aliens. They think their ethnic group should be above our immigration laws and rewarded for violating them. Get your facts straight!
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Old 11-08-2020, 09:32 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Our immigration laws are wrong, arbitrary, and largely ahistorical. US used to have open borders. Besides that, it doesn't matter what we used to do because tradition is not a really great reason for doing anything. This country doesn't belong to citizens, it doesn't belong to white people, it doesn't belong to Christians. It's open to all..

And we shall see ... as the nation grows more diverse, it is possible that there will be more support for opening our borders and amnesty. I believe this will benefit our nation greatly.
Fine..open the borders. But end all welfare programs then. You come here then you have to make it on your own.
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Old 11-08-2020, 10:00 AM
 
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Not just differ but no one is a citizen aka an American unless they hold citizenship papers. That's just a fact not an opinion.
Actually, that is not true. Mexico forms part of North America making them Americans, Central Americans live in Central America which makes them Americans and South Americans are technically Americans because they live in South America. they may not be a US citizen per se but they are technically considered Americans

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You are gross. Illegals don’t deserve the us freedom. Don’t have enough to go around
Your xenophobia is gross too, but what can we do?

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Originally Posted by acrobat612 View Post
Undocumented residents are people, no better or worse than citizens. Citizenship just happens to be a status. But that doesn't invalidate people's humanity and to think that undocumented people are somehow "less than" is lizard brain tribalist mularky.

Let them all in, it will make our nation better.
Exactly! At least they work jobs that American do not want to work, like the food industry and construction.

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