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NPR featured an interview with Ted Cruz's father, this morning. My recollection of what was said is that he described himself as lazy, as someone who bribed his way to the USA, claimed asylum after his student visa expired and failed to consider U.S. citizenship for more than 40 years after arriving in the USA. He also sounded like someone who hasn't seriously learned/studied English. The Senator from Texas who is one of the leaders of the Americna Taliban might want to clean-up his family record a bit more before attacking others.
Are you talking about Ted Cruz or his father's history? I was a bit confused.
That's why the primary focus needs to be on the employers who enable the illegals to stay here. That's the incentive to entering/staying illegally. After that's taken care of the problem will be vastly more manageable.
I agree however benefit incentives need to end also along with birthright citizenship. Otherwise they can live off their U.S. born kid's welfare benefits.
One motivator is our broken policies and procedures for the immigrant worker visa system. It's so slow and cumbersome, that both the immigrant workers and employees would rather break the law, then deal with it. If farmers did follow the letter of the law, many years their tomatoes would rot on the vines before the workers showed up.
Not really. The problem is that those entering illegally are mostly the poor, unskilled and uneducated. We don't need them so why would we expand our worker visa system to include them?
There are unlimited H-2A visas for crop pickers so there is no reason for the tomatoes or any other crops to rot on the vines. A grower just has to plan ahead and apply for these visas but I surmise that most of them just want the cheap, illegal labor to increase their profits. They don't have to provide and benefits to them either.
I listened to that same story. I don't think Ted Cruz should draw attention to his own father's immigration story, which to me doesn't demonstrate a firm commitment to the United States. Hell, he fought for CASTRO and then his parents bribed his way out of the country. "Right way" indeed.
Having said that, Ted Cruz is not his father. He doesn't have any control over what his father does.
Exactly. If my father were a rapist and or murderer should I approve of those crimes because afterall my father also committed them? We are only responsible for our own behavior not the actions of our family members.
We certainly hear the pro-illegal side say that very thing when they demand that people brought here as children not be punished for the sins of their parents. It is ironic that now the pro-side would seek to tar and feather Cruz for the sins of his father.
Not really. The problem is that those entering illegally are mostly the poor, unskilled and uneducated. We don't need them so why would we expand our worker visa system to include them?
There are unlimited H-2A visas for crop pickers so there is no reason for the tomatoes or any other crops to rot on the vines. A grower just has to plan ahead and apply for these visas but I surmise that most of them just want the cheap, illegal labor to increase their profits. They don't have to provide and benefits to them either.
Correct. They have ample opportunity to plan based on past crops and requirements. What they do instead is wait to see how the growing season is working out, knowing that illegals are plentiful. They save on the costs associated with worker visa program and instead pocket the savings.
I love when people say our produce will skyrocket. Fact only 25% of all illegals work on farms. Fact only 25 % of all produce is harvested by illegals.
The pro-side likes to exaggerate the contribution of illegals to make us believe the world would end without illegal labor.
Correct. They have ample opportunity to plan based on past crops and requirements. What they do instead is wait to see how the growing season is working out, knowing that illegals are plentiful. They save on the costs associated with worker visa program and instead pocket the savings.
I love when people say our produce will skyrocket. Fact only 25% of all illegals work on farms. Fact only 25 % of all produce is harvested by illegals.
The pro-side likes to exaggerate the contribution of illegals to make us believe the world would end without illegal labor.
Actually, my stats state that only 3-4% of illegals are working in the ag industry. I have posted a link to it before.
Thus I stand corrected,but my premise is still correct. Thank you for correcting my math.
No problem and you're right the premise is still correct.
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