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Old 06-17-2011, 01:16 PM
 
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Here is a link worth checking out when we get too self righteous and indignant and all proud of ourselves in Alabama about this "wonderful" law. There is a problem. We acknowledge that. This law is not a good, fair, or effective solution.

Bishop Calls Alabama Immigration Law Nation's 'Meanest'

Only, of course, if we are interested in considering all sides.

That Bishop is a FOOL who does NOT represent the feeling or the wishes of the VAST majority of his flock.

This type of legislation is supported by a MAJORITY of the voters of Alabama and Georgia who just passed a similar law. This dolt needs to get off his soap box and take a hard look at reality.

If I had anything to do with this guy or his organization/congregation I would make it my goal to have him removed ASAP. Something tells me that after this article it is probably already in the works to have him replaced.
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, Florida at last
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It is not the Bishop's job to follow the feelings or the wishes of the majority. He answers to a higher authority. I guess it must be his conviction that this is not "what Jesus would do", or maybe just not "how Jesus would do it".

Georgia's law seems to be working out well for them though. There are LOTS of jobs for all those whose jobs were stolen by illegal immigrants. In fact, they are desperate for pickers, the phrase "dying on the vine" was used. I guess their law had the desired effect. Get out there and claim these lucrative jobs while they last.
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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Interesting Link. Apparently all those folks whose jobs were stolen have failed to show up and work the harvest. I can't imagine why.



Ga. Criminals Sub for Immigrant Farm Workers - Bloomberg
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Mavoufl = "the perspective of Christian thought and action"

Should read: the perspective of leftist Christian thought and action. Liberation theology comes to mind. BTW Methodist Bishop Willimon is featured in this article on the 'Evangelical Left':

Evangelical left - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Remember when Phil Valentine in Nashville reported on the ties between the United Methodist Church and the Communist Party USA? IMO many churches have been taken over by 'social justice' activists in the Gramscian long march through American institutions.

I think a true Christian doesn't think or vote in terms of left or right. But I could be wrong . . .
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Old 06-18-2011, 04:26 AM
 
Location: Michaux State Forest
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Terrible, terrible post. Awful, terrible.
This post is awful, it also happens to be the truth.
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Old 06-18-2011, 04:50 AM
 
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So what?

The legal ones live the high-lifestyle and fly.

Seriously though when you violate a country's laws then it's kind of obvious that this is what you get.

Also I doubt many people here have taken a college-level economics course about the REASON of the cheaper labor SOUTH of the US.

If there is a legitimate economic need the business will do the standard VISA process for the foreign citizen.

Though the industries are quite different than what I'm used to (industrial, corporate level software/IT engineering, etc.)

There also needs to be more enforcement of businesses who HIRE illegals. Not ONLY do they employ and worsen the problem of the poor Mexican and other citizens THEY AGGREGATE THE PROBLEM by driving down the RIGHTS OF ILLEGAL CITIZENS!
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Mountain West
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I think a true Christian doesn't think or vote in terms of left or right. .
In a perfect world, yes. In reality, no. In fact, the amount of politically polarized "sermons" from the pulpit was a huge factor in driving me away from organized religion for good.......
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Old 06-21-2011, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Dalton Gardens
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As a native of Southern California I am very pleased that the lawmakers in Alabama are taking such strong and positive steps in protecting the rights and jobs of their citizens. For anyone who still doubts the damage done to our economy, cities, schools and job force, just look to California and see what we have become. Alabama is putting a stop to it before it's too late, and I applaud that. My husband is a legal immigrant here from the UK, as is my new daughter-in-law. The neither ask for nor expect special treatment or concessions. We are now looking at a strong possibility of moving to Alabama just to escape California's too-liberal climate.
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, Florida at last
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I just know you are going to love it here!

The guy who spearheaded this bill in the legislature used the charming phrase "empty the clip" on illegal immigrants. That was even before the tape recording of him referring to black clientele of a casino as "Aboriginals". But, our governor says "he's a good man". Aw shucks.

The law is a moral embarrassment, but the inane glee with which it is supported is frightening.
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Dalton Gardens
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I just know you are going to love it here!

The guy who spearheaded this bill in the legislature used the charming phrase "empty the clip" on illegal immigrants. That was even before the tape recording of him referring to black clientele of a casino as "Aboriginals". But, our governor says "he's a good man". Aw shucks.

The law is a moral embarrassment, but the inane glee with which it is supported is frightening.
Well, I suppose that depends on what side of the fence you are viewing it from. Just curious...have you ever lived in Southern California for any long period of time, especially during this recession?
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