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Old 03-17-2011, 08:37 PM
 
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It's a civil penalty. There is no argument towards undocumented immigrants that's not based on bigotry.


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Old 03-17-2011, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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What ????? I thought there were laws about illegal entry into the US.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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It is a crime. Go to school.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:45 PM
 
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It is a crime. Go to school.
It's a civil offense. It's not a crime. Deportation is a civil proceeding, not a criminal proceeding.


How can you tell a lawyer that he's wrong?
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:48 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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How can you tell a lawyer that he's wrong?
By pointing out where he is WRONG.

It's a crime. Any time you have to pay a fine and face a jail term is most certainly a crime.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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If you're here without permission you're a trespasser at the very least.

Major thread fail.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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It's a civil offense. It's not a crime. Deportation is a civil proceeding, not a criminal proceeding.


How can you tell a lawyer that he's wrong?
If caught and deported a 2nd time. That IS a felony. And illegals DO commit many crimes like fake SSNs.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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If you're here without permission you're a trespasser at the very least.

Major thread fail.
Show me where it is a criminal offense for being in this country undocumented.


Are you committing a crime for getting a speeding ticket?
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:59 PM
 
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If caught and deported a 2nd time. That IS a felony. And illegals DO commit many crimes like fake SSNs.
Fake SSNs are a crime, but that has nothing to do with being in the country undocumented. Even American citizens do SS fraud.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:05 PM
 
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Are you committing a crime for getting a speeding ticket?
Do you get fingerprinted and get a mugshot to go along with a nice set of shiny handcuffs to go along with your speeding ticket? I didn't think so. Handcuffs = under arrest, which means you are a criminal suspect.
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