Being an Undocumented Immigrant is Not a Crime (medical, health care, certificate)
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It sounds like you're trying to make a distinction between illegal entry (a criminal act) and illegal presence thereafter (a civil violation).
If there was an illegal entry violation, and the Fed's had nothing better to do, they could certainly make the case for a criminal violation. But it would probably take more effort on the Fed's part than the illegal alien is worth. I would also guess it's a lot easier on the Fed's to establish illegal presence rather than go to the trouble to try and gather evidence for illegal entry. And even if not, why load up the prison system with a bunch of illegals that we would have to feed, shelter and clothe on the tax payer's dime? It would seem more prudent to do only what's necessary and to deport them as quickly as possible.
Last edited by AlabamaStorm; 03-18-2011 at 12:28 AM..
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It's impossible? How do you suppose they got here without crossing a border? How blind are you?
If I ever need an alleged lawyer I certainly will not hire you.
Visa overstays are every bit as illegal as those who cross the border without them.
There is an incredible level of abuse of visas. For one, visa selling goes on in many consulates, the one in Juarez is especially bad for that. And people routinely obtain shopping or visitor visas to come use the hospitals. All kinds of people have shopping passes and then just stay and work, do whatever they please completely disregarding the term of their visa.
Laser visas are very easily obtained on the streets of Juarez and any border town. You can rent one for $500 that gets you easily over the border, through the official ports of entry. Rarely are they checked and the picture ID on them is just a joke because the organized criminal rings have people assisting the soon-to-be illegal in selecting a picture that fits them, and even suggest wearing a cap, not wearing a cap, cutting their hair or combing it a different way to better resemble the picture. You don't get to keep the card, it's only a easy get over the border quickly pass for $500. They reuse these cards over and over.
Green cards are also sold by their owners to illegals who want to present them to employers. Document selling is a very lucrative practice. Anytime you want $200 or more cash, sell your documents, then report them stolen and you get the replacements in just about a week. No questions asked.
These people know full well what they're doing, they are not authorized to work and stay permanently.
When you go to Mexico, they would give you a tourist card for up to 6 months but with a date stamped on it that you gave them when you expected to leave. You were expected to abide by the laws.
Changing the verbage from illegal immigrant to undocumented immigrant is mere sophistry. They are one in the same.
It is similar to calling murder a late term abortion, late by many years.
The word "illegal" say it all. Trying to put a rosy picture to it should be illegal.
It is illegal to spit on the sidewalk in many communities and it is illegal to explode a bomb in fornt of a federal building and kill hundreds of people...your logic sees all illegal acts as equal. Do you recognize the difference?
It is illegal to spit on the sidewalk in many communities and it is illegal to explode a bomb in fornt of a federal building and kill hundreds of people...your logic sees all illegal acts as equal. Do you recognize the difference?
Contrary to what you believe, the USA with it's overly generous and numerous welfare programs and budget deficits and high unemployment rates simply cannot be the only nation in the world with no immigration laws or borders of any kind.
Something has to give. We have made it very easy for all the wanna-be welfare recipients to come here and get on those programs simply by giving birth.
It is illegal to spit on the sidewalk in many communities and it is illegal to explode a bomb in fornt of a federal building and kill hundreds of people...your logic sees all illegal acts as equal. Do you recognize the difference?
Do you realize that an illegal action is just that, illegal? Putting quantitative difference on degrees of illegal actions is like being a little bit pregnant. Either it is illegal or its not. Your "logic" seems to excuse any illegal activity that you see fit to excuse. Do you recognize the disconnect in your logic?
It is illegal to spit on the sidewalk in many communities and it is illegal to explode a bomb in fornt of a federal building and kill hundreds of people...your logic sees all illegal acts as equal. Do you recognize the difference?
The poster was making an analogy. I haven't read anywhere in here where entering our country illegally is being equated with the crime of exploding a bomb and killing hundreds of people. No one has said nor implied that all illegal acts are equal obviously because the punishment has to fit the crime and our laws reflect that. Too bad on the issue of illegal immigration though that our government isn't enforcing the punishment for being here illegally as they should be.
There is no argument towards undocumented immigrants that's not based on bigotry.
Are you serious? There are TONS of arguments against illegal immigrants that having nothing to with "bigotry!"
From wage deflation, to resource depletion, exploitation of social services, to population growth difficulties, to degredation of neighborhoods, to strained healthcare systems, to increase in crime and gangs.... if you don't think there's "arguments" against illegal immigration that have nothing to do with the ethnicity or origin of the immigrants, you AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION!
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