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Old 05-11-2010, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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How small is the rural gap between Houston's northern suburbs and Huntsville?
Basically meaning the Conroe area to Huntsville right?
There really is quite a large gap of rural space between there, but it's slowly narrowing.
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:53 AM
 
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North East is between 1960 & kingwood
North is woodlands
North West is about 1960 hwy 6
West is Katy Mills Mall
South West is hwy 6
South is Beltway Mchard Rd really there is not much past that
South East is Nasa Rd 1
East is Magnolia

Places like Conroe Lake Jackson Baytown Richmon are not really part of Houston since they are there own citites they are more suburan areas
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:43 AM
 
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Basically meaning the Conroe area to Huntsville right?
There really is quite a large gap of rural space between there, but it's slowly narrowing.
I was just wondering since a poster included Huntsville in the metro.
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Old 05-12-2010, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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I was just wondering since a poster included Huntsville in the metro.
It's in the metropolitan area, but the land between Conroe and Huntsville is still yet to be developed.
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Old 05-12-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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It's a good thing for Houston metro area, Huntsville + Bay City = 54,000 inhabitants in 2000.With that Houston metro will surpass Philadelphia metro without doubts !
If we start claiming stuff that far out as metro Houston, Philly might as well claim NYC and Baltimore and be No. 1 for good.
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Old 05-12-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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If we start claiming stuff that far out as metro Houston, Philly might as well claim NYC and Baltimore and be No. 1 for good.
Geographical differences though, every region has them. In the Northeast, they are densely close to each other, not giving them enough land, which is why density matters there, states don't but regions do, like New England, Mid Atlantic, etc...

They way it's done in the West Coast and the South, is completely different. We have a large amount of land that we can take up.

I mean the contrast between cities is very astronomical. Both are in the same state but Jacksonville is the largest city by land wise in Florida with 756 square miles, and Miami is just a mere 38 square miles.
Yet their population reflects something else. Miami with 413,000 people in 38 square miles, and Jacksonville with 807,000 people in 756 square miles of city land area.
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:46 PM
 
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Geographical differences though, every region has them. In the Northeast, they are densely close to each other, not giving them enough land, which is why density matters there, states don't but regions do, like New England, Mid Atlantic, etc...

They way it's done in the West Coast and the South, is completely different. We have a large amount of land that we can take up.

I mean the contrast between cities is very astronomical. Both are in the same state but Jacksonville is the largest city by land wise in Florida with 756 square miles, and Miami is just a mere 38 square miles.
Yet their population reflects something else. Miami with 413,000 people in 38 square miles, and Jacksonville with 807,000 people in 756 square miles of city land area.
If we're just going to go on where the sprawl ends and overlooking maybe a few small gaps of open space here and there (which is what we're doing here), then everything from Manchester, New Hampshire to Fredericksburg, Virginia can be considered one metro area. At some point it would extend to Richmond, then Raleigh, Greensboro, Winston-Salem and Charlotte in North Carolina all the way down to Atlanta. Mega City-One. I'm not seeing why the rules should be different from one region to another.

Bay City has very little to do with Houston other than being able to pick up the TV/radio stations. Beaumont and Southeast Texas in general is its own media market (albeit much smaller) and culturally has little in common with Houston, even if the oil economy is all tied together.
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:52 PM
 
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If we're just going to go on where the sprawl ends and overlooking maybe a few small gaps of open space here and there (which is what we're doing here), then everything from Manchester, New Hampshire to Fredericksburg, Virginia can be considered one metro area. At some point it would extend to Richmond, then Raleigh, Greensboro, Winston-Salem and Charlotte in North Carolina all the way down to Atlanta. Mega City-One. I'm not seeing why the rules should be different from one region to another.

Bay City has very little to do with Houston other than being able to pick up the TV/radio stations. Beaumont and Southeast Texas in general is its own media market (albeit much smaller) and culturally has little in common with Houston, even if the oil economy is all tied together.
Yeah I see what you're saying but the guys back at the census rooms are the ones who added Huntsville and Bay City in.

BosWash is a megaregion but it's pretty urban between all the cities. Definitely no New Hampshire and Virginia locations (aside from DC suburbs).
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:12 PM
 
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Yeah I see what you're saying but the guys back at the census rooms are the ones who added Huntsville and Bay City in.

BosWash is a megaregion but it's pretty urban between all the cities. Definitely no New Hampshire and Virginia locations (aside from DC suburbs).
The area between Boston and Manchester, along US 3 and including Lowell (Mass.) and Nashua (N.H.) is no less continuously developed than anything between Conroe and Huntsville, and certainly moreso than what's between Bay City and Fort Bend/northern Brazoria County.

Throwing Bay City into Houston is a little like throwing Richmond (Va.) into DC. You have large expanses of wide open space in Brazoria County once you get south of Highway 6. You drive through a good 20 miles of nothing to get to Angleton, then another 10 miles to West Columbia, then another 25 miles or so down Highway 35 with just the refineries in Old Ocean between West Columbia and Bay City/Van Vleck. It's really on its own out there.
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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That's a lot of rural land!
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