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Old 03-31-2017, 04:34 AM
 
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The Hobby area is way too close to Sunnyside for my taste. (Sunnyside is known as a high crime area.) However your mileage may vary.
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Old 03-31-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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The Hobby area is a sketchy area. However in the middle of that is as others suggested glenbrook valley and garden villas. Glenbrook has some beautiful homes and some just perfect for doing a total redo on the inside -- beautiful
Structures. Far from retail of any sort in safe areas.
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Old 03-31-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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Ghetto!
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Old 04-01-2017, 04:43 AM
 
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The Hobby area is way too close to Sunnyside for my taste. (Sunnyside is known as a high crime area.) However your mileage may vary.
Hobby Airport itself is not that close. On Google maps I find it is 7.3 miles away by car via Airport Road.

Braeswood Place is 6.4 miles away from Sunnyside but it's known as a good neighborhood.
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Old 04-01-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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The Hobby area is way too close to Sunnyside for my taste. (Sunnyside is known as a high crime area.) However your mileage may vary.
I wouldnt worry about sunnyside living in glenbrook valley anymore than I would living in other areas or suburbs on the se side.
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Old 04-01-2017, 05:34 PM
 
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What one could do is ask residents of Garden Villas, Glenbrook Valley, and/or Idylwood where they like to shop. There's a big Wal-Mart next to Idylwood (in the former Oshman's lot).

What you could do is shop at Kroger etc. for most goods, and make trips to the westside for luxury goods on weekends.
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Old 04-02-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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People from outside the area tend to hold the area to a more stringent standard. The comment about the proximity to Sunnyside is a good example. As previously mentioned, there are a whole lot of areas that are actually closer where that would never be brought up. The main thoroughfares in the area are mostly in need of redevelopment, although the area hardly has a monopoly on that. Nor does it have a monopoly on the craptastic apartments in the area. While retail is limited, there is a marginal Kroger in the area, the Fiesta is the second one the new owners of the chain have totally revamped, (first is on Wayside), and it is surprisingly decent. Montrose HEB decent? No. But decent. There is also a big HEB at Gulfgate. Considering it's only about 8 miles to downtown & basically just barely outside the loop, it's not like heading over to Whole Foods or places like that has to be reserved for special weekend trips. If you live in the back of the Woodlands near 2978, it's literally further just to reach I-45 than it is for people in Glenbrook to reach downtown, yet the distance factor in areas like Glenbrook is such that going in town is a special pre-planned trip? Different standards, but I digress.

There are some things going on in the overall area though that are worth mentioning. Ed Wulfe, the big commercial developer who redid the dying Gulfgate Mall into the new center, with help from the Gulfgate TIRZ, just pushed the expansion of the TIRZ to include all of Broadway. Your guess is as good as mine as to why they did that, but I have a hard time believing it was done willy-nilly for no reason:

"When you land at Hobby Airport, Broadway is the first impression you have of Houston," Wulfe said. "We have the opportunity now to take what happened in the shopping center, a really high-energy focal point for the area, and broaden that to these corridors."

Once-tiny East End development zone could be one of city's largest - Houston Chronicle

Then there was also the recent formation of the Hobby Area Management District. They are trying to create redevelopment plans for the area in a recently released study. Who knows how much, if any, of these proposals will ever get off the ground, but there is some interesting stuff in here. Click on and flip through the draft report:

Hobby Area Livable Centers Study - Houston-Galveston Area Council (H-GAC)

Of course one of the just completed items was the $17,000,000 rebuilding of Broadway Boulevard and the multi-million dollar landscaping improvements by Scenic Houston from Hobby to I-45:

Eyesore no more: Road leading to Hobby Airport gets major sprucing up - CultureMap Houston

Right across the freeway, the city has signed a lease and millions have already been raised to convert an old golf course into a world-class botanical garden. The master plan draft:

http://hbg.org/assets/img/images/pdf...ull-spread.pdf

Then there is the old Broadway Square and Savannah apartments on Broadway down near Hobby. Who knows exactly what the ultimate plans are, but when you look at the expansion of the Gulfgate TIRZ, paired with one owner out of Chicago, (whose main gig appears to be automated airport parking garages), assembling 80 acres next to the airport, you have to wonder if assembling that much property was just to continue running it as lower end apartments:

Long-term plans for Broadway Square Apartments near Hobby Airport include a mixed-used development with Houston's first automated parking garage - Houston Business Journal

But that's just some surrounding areas. Then we get to the neighborhood. Haters gonna hate, but the neighborhood was distinctive enough architecturally for inclusion in the American Institute of Architects Architectural Guide to Houston 3rd Edition, as well as other architecture books like Building Modern Houston:

"...in contrast to Timbergrove Manor, many of the homes are architect-designed, and the neighborhood has become popular with young, urban hipsters and modern architecture enthusiasts."

https://books.google.com/books?id=EO...valley&f=false

Inclusion in Houstonia's "Where to Live Now" list. Scroll down the list of neighborhoods and you will find it one or two below midtown's write up, (with a pic of a cute midtown row of shops, all of which on the whole row, save Sid's Lagoon, are owned and operated by GBV residents BTW)

https://www.houstoniamag.com/article...ods-april-2014

Apparently though, the urban hipsters aren't the only ones that have discovered the area, which typically bodes well for revitalization:

How Gay is Your Valley?

Then there is no less an authority than This Old House giving Glenbrook the nod:

https://www.thisoldhouse.com/ideas/b...-south/page/12

Which was covered in culturemap.com, at least 4th deal culturemap has done on the area:

Houston enclave (not the Heights) makes best "old" neighborhood list - CultureMap Houston

Then the time they covered last year's home tour, where 350 people paid $30 each to tour 6 houses

Historic Glenbrook Valley Home Tour - Event -CultureMap Houston

As well as others
Hidden treasures: Neighborhoods with history and community exist i... - CultureMap Houston

and some on individual shacks in the ghetto...

Vintage mod house rises from dead after decades of neglect and it'... - CultureMap Houston

and...

From shambles to stunning: A historic Mid-Century Mod extreme makeover - CultureMap Houston

and of course a prior home tour, done with Houston Mod in conjunction with international preservation group DoCoMoMo's World Architecture Day.

It's a mod, mod world at Glenbrook Valley: A new look at Houston's ... - CultureMap Houston

And several homes gracing the covers of Houston House and Home:

article page 56
https://issuu.com/houstonhouseandhom...uhousehome_vir

and again in 2013
https://issuu.com/houstonhouseandhom...uhousehome_vir

and again in 2016 on page 54 on.

https://issuu.com/houstonhouseandhom...uhousehome_vir

You can also find a bunch of the old ghetto shacks featured on the blogs retrorenovation.com and swamplot.com, there is more there.

That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface with the Chronicle. (although many have a pay wall)

An homage to midcentury style - Houston Chronicle

Midcentury homes entice fans of styles from 1950s and '60s - Houston Chronicle

Embraceable 'Hou' - Houston Chronicle

Glenbrook Valley smacks of 'Leave it to Beaver' - Houston Chronicle

It could pay to preserve a midcentury modern in Houston - Houston Chronicle

Houston subdivision named a top ‘old’ neighborhood - Prime Property

Overlooked Glenbrook Valley in Houston now attracting attention - Houston Chronicle

Historic Hobby neighborhoods see a revival - Houston Chronicle

and a Chronicle podcast:
Looped In - EP11: Would you look at that Swankienda? | Listen via Stitcher Radio On Demand

Undoubtedly it is not an area for everyone, and there are some who either don't live in the area, or lived there 30 years ago or know somebody who knows somebody who once lived there, who will spout off their "expert" opinion as more valid than anything listed above. That's okay though, what has been stated before that makes the area increasingly more interesting is not just the people who are moving in, but also the people who won't.

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Old 04-02-2017, 02:08 PM
 
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Would be nice to get hobby area cleaned up .... Coworkers won't fly out of hobby, they say getting there is unsafe. They take Broadway and it ends them ever going to hobby. I've told them to take Monroe or airport to no avail.
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Old 04-02-2017, 03:17 PM
 
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People from outside the area tend to hold the area to a more stringent standard. The comment about the proximity to Sunnyside is a good example. As previously mentioned, there are a whole lot of areas that are actually closer where that would never be brought up. The main thoroughfares in the area are mostly in need of redevelopment, although the area hardly has a monopoly on that. Nor does it have a monopoly on the craptastic apartments in the area. While retail is limited, there is a marginal Kroger in the area, the Fiesta is the second one the new owners of the chain have totally revamped, (first is on Wayside), and it is surprisingly decent. Montrose HEB decent? No. But decent. There is also a big HEB at Gulfgate. Considering it's only about 8 miles to downtown & basically just barely outside the loop, it's not like heading over to Whole Foods or places like that has to be reserved for special weekend trips. If you live in the back of the Woodlands near 2978, it's literally further just to reach I-45 than it is for people in Glenbrook to reach downtown, yet the distance factor in areas like Glenbrook is such that going in town is a special pre-planned trip? Different standards, but I digress.

There are some things going on in the overall area though that are worth mentioning. Ed Wulfe, the big commercial developer who redid the dying Gulfgate Mall into the new center, with help from the Gulfgate TIRZ, just pushed the expansion of the TIRZ to include all of Broadway. Your guess is as good as mine as to why they did that, but I have a hard time believing it was done willy-nilly for no reason:

"When you land at Hobby Airport, Broadway is the first impression you have of Houston," Wulfe said. "We have the opportunity now to take what happened in the shopping center, a really high-energy focal point for the area, and broaden that to these corridors."

Once-tiny East End development zone could be one of city's largest - Houston Chronicle

Then there was also the recent formation of the Hobby Area Management District. They are trying to create redevelopment plans for the area in a recently released study. Who knows how much, if any, of these proposals will ever get off the ground, but there is some interesting stuff in here. Click on and flip through the draft report:

Hobby Area Livable Centers Study - Houston-Galveston Area Council (H-GAC)

Of course one of the just completed items was the $17,000,000 rebuilding of Broadway Boulevard and the multi-million dollar landscaping improvements by Scenic Houston from Hobby to I-45:

Eyesore no more: Road leading to Hobby Airport gets major sprucing up - CultureMap Houston

Right across the freeway, the city has signed a lease and millions have already been raised to convert an old golf course into a world-class botanical garden. The master plan draft:

http://hbg.org/assets/img/images/pdf...ull-spread.pdf

Then there is the old Broadway Square and Savannah apartments on Broadway down near Hobby. Who knows exactly what the ultimate plans are, but when you look at the expansion of the Gulfgate TIRZ, paired with one owner out of Chicago, (whose main gig appears to be automated airport parking garages), assembling 80 acres next to the airport, you have to wonder if assembling that much property was just to continue running it as lower end apartments:

Long-term plans for Broadway Square Apartments near Hobby Airport include a mixed-used development with Houston's first automated parking garage - Houston Business Journal

But that's just some surrounding areas. Then we get to the neighborhood. Haters gonna hate, but the neighborhood was distinctive enough architecturally for inclusion in the American Institute of Architects Architectural Guide to Houston 3rd Edition, as well as other architecture books like Building Modern Houston:

"...in contrast to Timbergrove Manor, many of the homes are architect-designed, and the neighborhood has become popular with young, urban hipsters and modern architecture enthusiasts."

https://books.google.com/books?id=EO...valley&f=false

Inclusion in Houstonia's "Where to Live Now" list. Scroll down the list of neighborhoods and you will find it one or two below midtown's write up, (with a pic of a cute midtown row of shops, all of which on the whole row, save Sid's Lagoon, are owned and operated by GBV residents BTW)

https://www.houstoniamag.com/article...ods-april-2014

Apparently though, the urban hipsters aren't the only ones that have discovered the area, which typically bodes well for revitalization:

How Gay is Your Valley?

Then there is no less an authority than This Old House giving Glenbrook the nod:

https://www.thisoldhouse.com/ideas/b...-south/page/12

Which was covered in culturemap.com, at least 4th deal culturemap has done on the area:

Houston enclave (not the Heights) makes best "old" neighborhood list - CultureMap Houston

Then the time they covered last year's home tour, where 350 people paid $30 each to tour 6 houses

Historic Glenbrook Valley Home Tour - Event -CultureMap Houston

As well as others
Hidden treasures: Neighborhoods with history and community exist i... - CultureMap Houston

and some on individual shacks in the ghetto...

Vintage mod house rises from dead after decades of neglect and it'... - CultureMap Houston

and...

From shambles to stunning: A historic Mid-Century Mod extreme makeover - CultureMap Houston

and of course a prior home tour, done with Houston Mod in conjunction with international preservation group DoCoMoMo's World Architecture Day.

It's a mod, mod world at Glenbrook Valley: A new look at Houston's ... - CultureMap Houston

And several homes gracing the covers of Houston House and Home:

article page 56
https://issuu.com/houstonhouseandhom...uhousehome_vir

and again in 2013
https://issuu.com/houstonhouseandhom...uhousehome_vir

and again in 2016 on page 54 on.

https://issuu.com/houstonhouseandhom...uhousehome_vir

You can also find a bunch of the old ghetto shacks featured on the blogs retrorenovation.com and swamplot.com, there is more there.

That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface with the Chronicle. (although many have a pay wall)

An homage to midcentury style - Houston Chronicle

Midcentury homes entice fans of styles from 1950s and '60s - Houston Chronicle

Embraceable 'Hou' - Houston Chronicle

Glenbrook Valley smacks of 'Leave it to Beaver' - Houston Chronicle

It could pay to preserve a midcentury modern in Houston - Houston Chronicle

Houston subdivision named a top ‘old’ neighborhood - Prime Property

Overlooked Glenbrook Valley in Houston now attracting attention - Houston Chronicle

Historic Hobby neighborhoods see a revival - Houston Chronicle

and a Chronicle podcast:
Looped In - EP11: Would you look at that Swankienda? | Listen via Stitcher Radio On Demand

Undoubtedly it is not an area for everyone, and there are some who either don't live in the area, or lived there 30 years ago or know somebody who knows somebody who once lived there, who will spout off their "expert" opinion as more valid than anything listed above. That's okay though, what has been stated before that makes the area increasingly more interesting is not just the people who are moving in, but also the people who won't.
Great post! It's been a long time. I always enjoyed reading your posts Modster!
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