09-28-2011, 01:31 PM
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15K in a design center wont' go far.
i used it towards structural upgrades.
finishes can always be done later for cheaper or if not better quality.
09-28-2011, 01:31 PM
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Ihafer, thanks a lot for the detailed message. that truly helps give me an insight on the design center practices. Was this the design center in Sam Houston Pkway off Clay road, as thats where we are going..
We have done the exact same thing you mentioned, having an excel sheet of all the items we plan to check on. since our home is going to be in telfair, we think we have to go with water softner as i dont think they get water from the lake. may be i will pre-plumb and install it at a later date.
i think getting a good building contractor seems to be the key? Since this is the first time we are building one, is this in our control? Can we request for someone specific? Would you recommend who you used so that I can atleast check if he is still available and willing to work with us..
Thanks
09-28-2011, 01:35 PM
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No experience with Ryland, but I just recently went through the process with another builder.
The biggest advice I can give is to take pictures of EVERYTHING that you choose at the design center. Lay it all out, and take pictures. Then after your home is framed and drywalled, print those pictures and go tape them up inside the house so there should be no doubt about what is getting installed.
I had several instances (mostly with flooring), where the wrong material was being installed, had to be torn out and redone. Putting the pictures up will avoid any confusion.
As far as upgrades go...
It's difficult to establish a cost for most true "upgrades" because you don't know the value of the standard product. Focus on things that are additions, not upgrades of existing features. For example, my house did not include blinds, so adding those was an obvious choice because it's an addition to the house that wasn't there before. Your house will already include carpet, no matter what. Making that carpet nicer provides only a marginal return on investment.
Excellent advice, will definitely take pictures of what we decide on...Thanks
09-28-2011, 01:36 PM
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15K in a design center wont' go far.
i used it towards structural upgrades.
finishes can always be done later for cheaper or if not better quality.
Luckily the 15K is post structural upgrades...
09-28-2011, 02:21 PM
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Have to say, we love our "Cantata" model as well! Got a load of upgrades, most were included as part of an incentive back in 2008. The one thing I absolutely love is the Moen Stone Sink. It's huge, and beautiful and I am so glad we got it. We also chose Silestone over Granite. And laid the 18" tile at an angle . . . makes a big difference.
We got a good incentive package too...Memorial weekend sale + we were the last house Ryland built in our section = great deals!!
I forgot to mention the other BIG upgrade we did was the stone fireplace! LOVE it. Thought about doing the tile at an angle, but in the end we didn't.
09-28-2011, 02:25 PM
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We got a good incentive package too...Memorial weekend sale + we were the last house Ryland built in our section = great deals!!
I forgot to mention the other BIG upgrade we did was the stone fireplace! LOVE it. Thought about doing the tile at an angle, but in the end we didn't.
Love the fireplace.. its amazing. It may cost a little more as ours is a Rosanno and the fireplace wall runs to the ceiling. What was the cost on this fireplace, it looks really good and I like the paint combination as well. Did u use Ryland or outside contractor for the paint?
09-28-2011, 03:27 PM
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Love the fireplace.. its amazing. It may cost a little more as ours is a Rosanno and the fireplace wall runs to the ceiling. What was the cost on this fireplace, it looks really good and I like the paint combination as well. Did u use Ryland or outside contractor for the paint?
The cost was ~$6,000. The ceiling height is 14' (that's a 58" tv to give you perspective on the size). The Rossano has 18' ceilings according to the floor plan - so a little more, but should be double or anything.
The ones we saw in the design center didn't have the seat on the fireplace - I am VERY glad that our masons made it like this. Though they did forget to put the mantle in, and had to come back later and rip some stone out to put one in. We also had them replace the stones that make up the seat of the fireplace because they were a purple tint and they were fugly. Plus we felt that they stuck out too far. So we had them redo it. And it turned out awesome.
I used an outside contractor for the paint ONLY because I didn't have a ladder to reach to the top safely. They only painted about a wall and half total. The wall opposite the fireplace is not painted this color. Otherwise I painted the rest of my house myself. My house is a mixture of reds, yellows and oranges. Goes with the *Tuscan* theme I told you about.
10-01-2011, 02:04 AM
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They did a pretty crappy job on our fireplace the first go around. We made them do it over . . . was about 3/4 complete.
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We also had them replace the stones that make up the seat of the fireplace because they were a purple tint and they were fugly. Plus we felt that they stuck out too far. So we had them redo it. And it turned out awesome.
07-22-2012, 04:31 AM
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I totally agree with
lhafer about the Design Center experience. I experienced the same rushed treatment. It's a good thing I am not a timid person nor was this the first time building a new house. At one point I was convinced that my DC person was taking a nip of something other than bottled water
. I had to check her on several errors she recorded as
my selections. This items she'd listed were of a lesser quality than the ones offered on the Upgrade Package provided to us during the Incentive Program. I really had to demand that she check and re-check periodically to make sure we were getting the right items.
I am also meticulous in the way I process information. I took pictures of everything I selected and calculated the cost of incentives and upgrades against our personal budget. I took my time and I asked questions! Finally, I was told that my appointment couldn't be completed at the DC and that further selections could be made with the on-site Sales Person in the home community.
For All Newbies: BEWARE
The model home is loaded with upgrades!
That's okay. Why? Because the model (THE CANTATA) was the house we fell in love with and that's the house we determined to purchase.
1. I compiled what I called my
"GOT TO HAVE " list and used as much of our incentive $$$ to get what was on
this list.
2. I took pictures of the model home (inside and outside). These photos were used to clarify any verbal
misunderstandings during Design Center appointments, construction meetings and builder's changes and replacements
3. To eliminate confusion and reinforced the "exact" selection and options that we wanted I keep a
binder of everything, (including emails and photos). A picture can save a 1000 headaches during construction.
Hopefully, we will be able to build this 3rd new house with fewer headaches. I am prayerful that we will be spared the expenses of a "bad" experience.
10-18-2012, 07:59 PM
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Yup, half down.
We're doing the same with Trendmaker. This week is our second appt.
Can these places have any standard colors other than freakin brown????
I couldn't even pick white paint! Had to ask them to paint the ceiling color on the walls, just to get something close to white.
The best thing is to negotiate your upgrades into the cost of the house, but unfortunately you are passed that. We got around $35k in upgrades on a $340k house. Upgraded wood floor all downstairs, premium coldesac lot, 3 car garage, outdoor kitchen, blinds, ss fridge, sprinkler system, upgraded elevation.
Now we just need to upgrade a few smaller items like kitchen countertop or bathroom tile.
As an example from my options list, the upgraded floor we got (level E) sells for $5.95 sq ft. Kind of expensive considering there is a base floor cost already in the price of the home.
where did you purchase the trendmaker home? we liked the trendmaker home in Cinco Ranch and Sugarland in 55" lot.
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People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)