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Old 10-13-2010, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I wish Houston would annex The Woodlands and southern Montgomery County. I think The Woodlands being it's own city is a big joke. They are going to make it a speed trap and tourist trap. I really wish the city of Houston would have never dropped the darn ball and allowed The Woodlands to incorporate seperatley. If it was not for Houston, The Woodlands would not exist. People do not associate The Woodlands as a seperate entity from the Houston area. You basically tell people that The Woodlands is a part of Houston or the north Houston area.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:04 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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I wish Houston would annex The Woodlands and southern Montgomery County. I think The Woodlands being it's own city is a big joke. They are going to make it a speed trap and tourist trap. I really wish the city of Houston would have never dropped the darn ball and allowed The Woodlands to incorporate seperatley. If it was not for Houston, The Woodlands would not exist. People do not associate The Woodlands as a seperate entity from the Houston area. You basically tell people that The Woodlands is a part of Houston or the north Houston area.
I'm glad Houston is not annexing The Woodlands. It's big enough, no need to annex more. The city has really eased back on annexing. If The Woodlands wants to become a speed trap, then that's them. I hardly travel through there, so it doesn't bother me. Just watch your speed. If it was not for Houston, a lot of the suburban cities around this place would be MUCH smaller than they are, but I don't think The Woodlands growing because of Houston is a reason why The Woodlands should not become its own city.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:14 PM
 
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I also think Houston should annex all of the remaining unincorporated areas of Harris County. It would gain about 1.7 million in population and plenty of good new tax base. I have never understood why the city has not done that.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:16 PM
 
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I also think Houston should annex all of the remaining unincorporated areas of Harris County. It would gain about 1.7 million in population and plenty of good new tax base. I have never understood why the city has not done that.
Because the city does not want all of those Republican voters voting in the city. Not to mention that is way too much coverage for police, fire, etc. It wouldn't make sense to me honestly. Maybe just for bragging rights. Remember, the city gets a lot more tax revenue from annexing commercial areas and not residential areas. It's a reason why the city annexed the Willowbrook Mall area, for example, and left the residential areas alone.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:18 PM
 
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Great thread. I was born in Atlanta, lived there twice, have been in Houston for 20 years. In 1980 I was living in Austin, and I and a bunch of young freinds were looking at buying a piece of land and subdividing it among us for living on it. It was in the Austin ETJ and we wanted to build a road for access to a couple of tracts that would have resulted. We found out that we were going to have to comply with Austin codes for road building, and it really angered me that people not able to vote in Austin were subjected to Austin city regulation. The ETJ legal construct is the most un-American thing about Texas. Even though I was a citizen of Austin, the scenario still disgusted me, that I may have eventually lived outside the city but have to comply with city development rules, and pay for inspections, etc. We in the end did not buy the land.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:26 PM
 
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Scarface713, don't you think there is plenty of commercial development of substantial value primed for annexation? The Woodlands/The Woodlands Mall/Town Center would be a crown jewel. Maybe it would be just bragging rights. Do you really think the city of Houston doesn't want more republican voters? I just want the city to be more complete.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:31 PM
 
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Scarface713, don't you think there is plenty of commercial development of substantial value primed for annexation? The Woodlands/The Woodlands Mall/Town Center would be a crown jewel. Maybe it would be just bragging rights. Do you really think the city of Houston doesn't want more republican voters? I just want the city to be more complete.
How would annexing The Woodlands Mall area make the city more complete though? Houston doesn't plan on annexing any more land, so I don't see the problem in it releasing some ETJ for The Woodlands to form their own city. I'm actually glad Houston's suburbs are starting to grow up and become larger. It helps out the entire region to have some stronger suburbs. I wish Houston would release some ETJ around Katy and the Cypress area and let those areas form their own cities. It's not like Houston would be blocked in like Dallas, even then.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:43 PM
 
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I mean more complete in a boundry sense. I am all for the areas retaining their identities. We could refer to them as the Cypress part of town or The Woodlands Part of town. Also, The Woodlands Mall area generates alot of money. There is also that Houston Premium Outlets mall in Cypress. There is the commercial base. That is called Houston Premium Outlets and it is not even near the city limits. So why not annex it? That is what I mean by complete. They would still have their own identities but just be sections of the city. Take for example if I were to say the Sagemont area of the city. It has about 75% in the city limits but retains it's identity.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:47 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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I mean more complete in a boundry sense. I am all for the areas retaining their identities. We could refer to them as the Cypress part of town or The Woodlands Part of town. Also, The Woodlands Mall area generates alot of money. There is also that Houston Premium Outlets mall in Cypress. There is the commercial base. That is called Houston Premium Outlets and it is not even near the city limits. So why not annex it? That is what I mean by complete. They would still have their own identities but just be sections of the city. Take for example if I were to say the Sagemont area of the city. It has about 75% in the city limits but retains it's identity.
But what's the point of annexing those areas? That's more city service that Houston has to provide. Houston's boundaries are pretty complete now. I don't think the city should annex the entire metro area that isn't incorporated. I think a reason why Houston hasn't annexed places like the Premium Outlets is because this decade could be one where many of the suburbs form their own cities. They need their own tax bases. And not everyone wants to become part of the City of Houston either. Aside from some tax revenues, I don't see the benefit for Houston to annex all of these areas, except for some population bragging rights maybe, but that's not a good reason.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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I agree that eveyone doesn't want to become part of the city. I agree that it would require more city services. I think that can be overcome. Some city services are much better tha what the county can provide. besides what is wrong with having a little bragging rights? You know, eclipsing Chicago in population.
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