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Originally Posted by stephanie csokmay
Starting our Kitchen remodel have plans from yes the Big orange 23,000 for kitchen cabinets undertand im enlarging my kitchen by taking over the dining room. I hear that I should look at Merrilat the price we have was on Kraftmaid. Would like some advice on shoppiing around for smaller kitchen and bath places here in columbus where i can get a discount whaich the big orange does not offer. From these forums i find myself rethinking my kitchen Any advice would be greatly appreciated. ![Think](https://pics3.city-data.com/forum/images/smilies/think.gif)
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Stay away from the big orange who only wants your little green. $23,000 huh. Here is what happened. They quoted you list price or MSRP (manufacturers suggested retail price). They buy that for 23 cents on a dollar so ya figure they are making about $18 grand on you if my head did that right. How do you feel about that? Not too good huh.
Now consider almost all small dealers sell at a standard 40 to 60% off list price. That means any other Kraftmaid dealer would have quoted you a price of about $11,000. Now tell me what you could do with an extra $11 grand. Vacation round the world, buy your teacher (me) a late model car? Ok next thing is the big orange does not employ certified kitchen designers. They promote minimum wage floor people to cabinet sales and give them a 3 day training on how to design for profit....NOT design for maximum function, space and usability. The poor consumer watches them draw your new kitchen on the screen and will never know all the nice things available because those clowns don't know about them to tell YOU.
Here is another couple issues you will... not maybe run into. They tell you 8-10 weeks and know DAMN well it will be 12-14 weeks for delivery. I want someone to tell me why I can have Kraftmaid delivered RIGHT TO YOUR DOOR IN JUST 3 weeks. Any Kraftmaid dealer can. I'm not special. Next issue is your order will be incomplete because these young trainees don't know about accessories such as trim and add ons.
Ok about Merillat. My brand for 3 decades. Oldest and largest cabinet company on earth yet Kraftmaid has brand recognition over Merillat 10 fold. But......Merillat, Kraftmaid, Quality, Woodstar and the new Basic series are all companies owned by Masco which has about 80% of the world market in home improvement products. Your faucets are most likely by Masco companies, your floors, acoustical ceilings....on and on..
These were all separate companies at one time and now all one. Since about 2008 Masco is producing all the components of the boxes to be interchangeable with all their brands while leaving the color and door style choices to be on their own. Merillat Masterpiece is a very very high end high cost cabinet. Masterpiece is nothing but a glorified Kraftmaid cabinet. Kraftmaid makes them and stamps the inside of the drawer box with Masterpiece.
Merillat will be lessor cost then Kraftmaid and I feel the quality is pretty much the same. The main difference is Merillat has about 200 door style and color choices and Kraftmaid has about 900. What's more important to you? Box wise Merillat is the same product for less money.
Just go to the Merillat main site and look for dealers in your area. If you can look for a dealer with the Signature Dealer sign. If their web site does not advertise their every day discount then call and ask.
Hope I shed some light on your new project for you. Good luck and be a smart consumer.