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had the south wont the war, slavery would still have gone away as machine technology would have made having many slaves economically disastrous. that coupled with the high inflation that south was facing by printing huge amounts of currency would have meant a weak economy for years if not decades to come.
in the end slavery would have died on its own weight, and the south would have been looking to the north for economic help, as the north would have built their economy through industry. it would be a tough way to go for both countries though, and eventually the CSA would have reintegrated with the north most likely.
"Pride In CSA Southern History Is Alive & Well In 2011" ... And Thats A Fact Y'all ! !
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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper 88
Hi Everyone!
I dont know a lot about the Civil War but I do know some things. I'm just curios as to where history buffs think the United States would be at today had the Confederacy won the Civil War? Naturaly slavery would have gone on longer than it did, but would it still be alive today? Don you think the Confederate states would be their own nation or do you think they would have eventualy joined the Union again? What would be different?
WhipperSnapper 88 !!! ... Excellent Subject !
Indeed ... I appreciate your interest in the facinating Civil War or ( War Of Northern Aggression).
Perhaps our America would have had even greater influence and power on the world stage under CSA leadership than it has experienced under the United States of America ! Just saying .....
It is intriguing to consider and to attempt to deduce what might have been ... if General Lee would have been the victor and General Grant had surrendered his Army !
Truly facinating stuff ... as actual history always is for those who would but consider the facts and resist attempting to re-write it to suit the looney PC mindset !
An America under Southern CSA leadership from 1865 on may well have been the stuff that dreams are made of ... and we did come damn close to really finding out what it would have been like shortly after the War stated with all those glorious Southern victories !
Keep up the good work WhipperSnapper 88 ! There are millions of good folks in the U.S. who understand Southern Pride & Heritage regarding the Civil War and the great Southern CSA military history of that most facinating era !
An America under Southern CSA leadership from 1865 on may well have been the stuff that dreams are made of ... and we did come damn close to really finding out what it would have been like shortly after the War stated with all those glorious Southern victories !
What early southern victories? Surely not the loss of West Virginia, Kentucky, Nashville, New Orleans, western Tennessee and most the Carolina coast?
All-in-all, it is better for the South today that they lost.
That's no lie. If it weren't for the Federal government that so many southerners whine about they'd have to go all the way to Michigan to find a lake to put their bass boats in.
I think if the South had won our country would be just like South Africa was. There will be no justice for many people. When a group of people are suppressed, there will be a lot fighting for human rights. The north winning the war laid the foundation for chance for suppressed people to have basic human rights. Building a country on free labor would end eventually, suppressed people would flee to other places to live.
While I recognize and share some of the pride that my fellow southerners have in the more romantic and idealized southern side of the war, the simple fact is that if we had won we might all very well be speaking German.
It's hard to say really. I believe that the USA and CSA would be close partners in the modern day, assuming they hadn't rejoined already. To say that the US and CS wouldn't have put up a united front against the Axis in WWII is I believe incorrect. While the Confederacy would have probably had a more isolationist policy at the time, I find it extremely difficult to believe that the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbor (Assuming it was under US Control and events would have unfolded to make it so) wouldn't have angered folks in the CSA as well. As to abolition, it was on it's way out due to international pressure primarily & later mechanization. It is also possible that the CSA would have planned to deport blacks or gave them incentives to form their own communities in isolation from whites. At the same time, it is also possible that segregation wouldn't have ever came to light & blacks would have been denied access to services and facilities altogether just like what the freedmen in the antebellum period experienced.
I believe basically that the USA and CSA would be close partners, much as Canada & the US are in the modern day.
An interesting brain teaser to chew upon . What I, as a European, am curious about is how the global role of the United States would have looked like in case of the CSA winning the war. Suppose the CSA would have been the superior force in the next century, would they also have eventually risen to world domination and acted the way the US has acted? Or would they have taken a different approach on Germany, Soviet Union, Vietnam, Iraq,...
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"Pride In CSA Southern History Is Alive & Well In 2011" ... And Thats A Fact Y'all ! !
Excellent Subject !
Just saying ..... 
. What I, as a European, am curious about is how the global role of the United States would have looked like in case of the CSA winning the war. Suppose the CSA would have been the superior force in the next century, would they also have eventually risen to world domination and acted the way the US has acted? Or would they have taken a different approach on Germany, Soviet Union, Vietnam, Iraq,...
