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Every religion, and every society, in all times have demonstrated hatred of women in vile to subtle ways. Yet women are one half of the human race, and importantly the only means of propagating the species as possessors of a uterus.
Racism, and caste, as evil as it is, is ultimately, in truth, a convenient construct as a means of exploitation. Female sex is not a construct. Women have always worked as hard as men, even through pregnancy and the bearing of children, the future farm hands. What was the natural benefit in the hate and oppression? What was the payoff of hating the producer of future workers?
A few things I can think of that spurs this hatred:
Vagina/uterus envy.
They are property that can be stolen, can elope, and thus a liability.
They can seduce one to lose his senses.
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We hate that which we fear. What is the cause of fear?
What do you think?
Envy is by definition "a feeling of discontented or resentful longing aroused by someone else's possessions, qualities, or luck."
Do you really think men envy females, because females have possessions quality and luck, we do not? If so why does the modern feminist movement have us believe that men are the lucky ones with all the privilege's ? Is the feminist movement just envy of penises?
Anyone can be stolen or Elope and become a liability, in heterosexual relationships it takes both a man and a women to cheat.
Men can seduce women to the extent she looses her senses as well, it happens all the time.
Women are just as much in competition as men. All girls want that alpha guy and men know it, all statistics show that males of a certain age are far more likely to be virgins than females, why is that?
We might hate what we fear, but its very easy to simply turn the arguments you stated around and say Misandry is just as problematic as Misogyny.
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Envy is by definition "a feeling of discontented or resentful longing aroused by someone else's possessions, qualities, or luck."
Do you really think men envy females, because females have possessions quality and luck, we do not? If so why does the modern feminist movement have us believe that men are the lucky ones with all the privilege's ? Is the feminist movement just envy of penises?
Anyone can be stolen or Elope and become a liability, in heterosexual relationships it takes both a man and a women to cheat.
Men can seduce women to the extent she looses her senses as well, it happens all the time.
Women are just as much in competition as men. All girls want that alpha guy and men know it, all statistics show that males of a certain age are far more likely to be virgins than females, why is that?
We might hate what we fear, but its very easy to simply turn the arguments you stated around and say Misandry is just as problematic as Misogyny.
Those statements can be true in a world where men and women hold equal power. That is not the world we live in.
There is no such thing as “all girls want”. That only exists in those men’s minds who objectify women.
Envy of uterus or vagina is not about being women but the power that is endowed to them because they bear children who are future workers. It is not the power they feel, it is the power that is seen. That causes fear which turns into need to control their bodies.
Women see fewer advertisements about entering into science and technology professions than men do. But it’s not because companies are preferentially targeting men—rather it appears to result from the economics of ad sales.
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Today's modern alternative to that surely isn't any better. Now there's less masculine men who are not leaders, not dominant, unwilling to pull out chairs, or pay for dates.
The macho-man straightjacket has been removed, it's true. It's finally become socially acceptable for men to be whatever they want to be. Back during the John Wayne cowboy image days and the Rambo days, it wasn't socially acceptable, even though there were plenty of the more mild-mannered Clark Kent types around, even some mousy types. They married women who loved their gentle demeanor, but they had to kind of be in the closet to some extent, because they didn't go around beating their chests. Now they have role models that run the gamut between the two prior extremes of "macho" or "gay". This is a healthy development.
Some women don't want the guys to pay for dates. They don't want to feel obligated to the guys for any reason. They have a point.
From a political standpoint, it would seem that people have totally forgotten, that the right to own property and vote was historically something men had to fight for as well. They did it for well over 1000 years in some cases. Could you for instance name the year men universally received the right to vote in the UK (It was 1918), some 600 years after the first parliament was formed.
We need a thread on this in the History forum. When did women universally get the vote in the UK? In Switzerland, it wasn't until the 1970's, IIRC.
We need a thread on this in the History forum. When did women universally get the vote in the UK? In Switzerland, it wasn't until the 1970's, IIRC.
1928, the 1918 act extended the vote all men regardless of status over the age of 21 and property holding women over 30. The 1928 act moved the women in line with the men.
Surprised Switzerland was so late, here in Australia the rights for both men and women to vote and sit in federal parliament, were all passed at the same time on the formation of the federation (1901).
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Those statements can be true in a world where men and women hold equal power. That is not the world we live in. There is no such thing as “all girls want”. That only exists in those men’s minds who objectify women.
Envy of uterus or vagina is not about being women but the power that is endowed to them because they bear children who are future workers. It is not the power they feel, it is the power that is seen. That causes fear which turns into need to control their bodies.
Just like there is not such thing as "All men Want", or "All men Behave this way", which makes your opening comments appear even more out of touch with reality.
Just like there is not such thing as "All men Want", or "All men Behave this way", which makes your opening comments appear even more out of touch with reality.
A lot of misogyny is just plain old envy/jealousy. Feminism gave women tons of new rights and no new responsibilities. In today's world, being a woman is like playing the game of life on god mode. Anything a woman wants, she can get: from effortless access to sex, to a huge divorce windfall, to a lucrative job, all with no effort other than vagina power. Because affirmative action, at least for the job.
So it's understandable that men feel envious/jealous---after all, the vagina power is UNEARNED. It's a birthright. It comes with being born with XX chromosomes, rather than actively working or fighting for it. So the envy/jealousy degenerates into misogyny. Because unlike, say, a poor man becoming rich, a man will never become a woman. That will require a complex surgery. And even then, an M-to-F trans-person will still be a man at their core, and may still be hated by cis-gendered women.
A lot of misogyny is just plain old envy/jealousy. Feminism gave women tons of new rights and no new responsibilities. In today's world, being a woman is like playing the game of life on god mode. Anything a woman wants, she can get: from effortless access to sex, to a huge divorce windfall, to a lucrative job, all with no effort other than vagina power. Because affirmative action, at least for the job.
So it's understandable that men feel envious/jealous---after all, the vagina power is UNEARNED. It's a birthright. It comes with being born with XX chromosomes, rather than actively working or fighting for it. So the envy/jealousy degenerates into misogyny. Because unlike, say, a poor man becoming rich, a man will never become a woman. That will require a complex surgery. And even then, an M-to-F trans-person will still be a man at their core, and may still be hated by cis-gendered women.
There is no data to support women act with no responsibilities after gaining rights that men always had. In fact single mothers struggle more with low paying jobs and sexual harassment at work. Affirmative action only gave them equality in opportunities. The other things you mention are personal choices that men make as well.
Vagina envy can be one of the cause of misogyny, yes.
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