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Old 10-13-2020, 12:27 PM
 
Location: In the outlet by the lightswitch
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I think it'd make sense to give D.C. statehood IF you include Arlington, Alexandria, Fairfax, Loudoun, Prince William, Stafford (from VA) PG, Montgomery, Charles and Frederick (from MD) counties in that new state.



It'd be a horse trade, but it would make VA a very winnable state again for the GOP so it'd offset the D.C. delegation. The county allotment would allow for further and predictable growth in the D.C. metro to prevent a repetition of the same situation in the near future.

I don't know if Virginia would go for it. Virginia gets half of their tax revenue from Alexandria, Fairfax Loudoun, and Prince William. It's the economic engine of the state.


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Solved by giving DC voting representation in the House of Representatives commensurate with their population. While I'm very well aware that this would be the safest Democratic seat in the nation, I still think it should be done, out of simple fairness to the people who live there. But they should get no representation in the Senate, because the Senate represents states, not people.


I think the above is a very fair compromise. DC should have representation and their delegate should be allowed to vote. But I don't think it should become a full fledged state either. The whole point of its creation was so it wouldn't be beholden to a state.

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Old 10-13-2020, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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You're tying yourself up in knots. Here's Webster's post #23 you cited.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/59383103-post23.html

Here's Webster's map that I referenced & posted @ #19.

https://odu-gis.maps.arcgis.com/home...962faef1faaeb4

Post #20 was yours, 21 mine, 22 yours, 23 Webster. Different maps in #23.
Ah, so it was Webster's map but you're the one who posted it in this thread. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 10-14-2020, 07:15 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Washington DC will not be retroceded to Maryland. Nor will it become a state. It will remain its own, separate district and the capital of the United States.

You can take that to the bank.
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Old 10-14-2020, 08:53 AM
 
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Washington DC will not be retroceded to Maryland. Nor will it become a state. It will remain its own, separate district and the capital of the United States.

You can take that to the bank.
That's a very conclusory statement with no evidence in support.
Care to expand?
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Old 10-14-2020, 01:05 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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That's a very conclusory statement with no evidence in support.
Care to expand?
Washington DC was created by the Residence Act in July 1790. George Washington, our nation's Founding Father, selected the city's exact location on the Potomac River and signed it into law. It was chosen to be the permanent capital of the United States. The city was later placed under exclusive control of the federal government.

If you think that something of this level of importance is likely to ever change barring some violent revolution, then I don't know what to tell you.
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Old 10-14-2020, 04:39 PM
 
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Washington DC was created by the Residence Act in July 1790. George Washington, our nation's Founding Father, selected the city's exact location on the Potomac River and signed it into law. It was chosen to be the permanent capital of the United States. The city was later placed under exclusive control of the federal government.

If you think that something of this level of importance is likely to ever change barring some violent revolution, then I don't know what to tell you.
A lot easier to repeal a piece of legislation than amend the Constitution. Legislation gets amended and/or repealed every year.
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Old 10-14-2020, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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People shouldn't be allowed to have permanent residence in DC. If a DC'er is too poor to move, allocate dollars for their desired place of residence, pack 'em up and move 'em out.
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:26 AM
 
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People shouldn't be allowed to have permanent residence in DC. If a DC'er is too poor to move, allocate dollars for their desired place of residence, pack 'em up and move 'em out.
You know, in his Essay "A Modest Proposal" Dean Johnathon Swift had a better solution. He suggested that the rich should eat the children of the poor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:41 AM
 
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You know, in his Essay "A Modest Proposal" Dean Johnathon Swift had a better solution. He suggested that the rich should eat the children of the poor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal

Jonathan Swift also suggested in his Gulliver's Travels that talking horses would form a better system of government. Considering what we have right now, I can't say neigh to the horses.
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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People shouldn't be allowed to have permanent residence in DC. If a DC'er is too poor to move, allocate dollars for their desired place of residence, pack 'em up and move 'em out.
How is that logical?
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