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Ok, honestly I have kept an open mind. However here is where I see it differently than you.
One, I'll give you per rate Chicago is more violent. However, NY has gangs, thugs lowlifes etc too. It's not exactly Disney world.
You mention architecture, this is where I think your argument is very week. NY epitomizes goth architecture. If anything Chicago goes for the more modern look, whereas NY is a mixture between goth and new.
You mentioned Chicago is presented in a certain way, NY even in its most lit up areas (times square) are very dark because of the density of buildings which hinder the light.
You mention steam, welcome to NY. Steam is coming out of everywhere especially manholes.
You mention NY was better in the 60's and 70's saying, "it was a live action show and cartoon". I say it still is, the only difference is we dont have as much crime as we used to.
However, you have to understand NY has a cop on every corner. When they do that to Chicago you will see that crime will significantly decrease there as well.
So if all of your argument falls down to crime when all of your other arguments are countered, then wouldn't Detroit be a better pick?
Lets close the thread, Angel says its all been over analyzed now. I guess you dont like hearing a different opinion. You might want to go to another site then.
Secondly, werent you the one cheerleading for your boy and his page full of opinions on why Chicago makes for a better Gotham?
I guess it's only comfortable to hear similar opinions of yourself, when others disagree, it gets a little difficult to handle?
Metropolis was New York during the day while Gotham was New York at night.
AMEN!!! Hell, even the comics editor Dennis O'Neil said: "Batman's Gotham City, is Manhattan below 14th Street at eleven minuets past midnight, on the coldest night in November"
Its a fact. Just was in NY about a week ago. I must have seen Gotham on about five store and bank fronts. Dont kid yourselfs Chicago never has and never was Gotham. FInally they shoot it there for cost reduction and now you want to claim Gotham Chicago's very own.Yet most everyone within reason knows that Gotham=NYC.
I dont care if you believe me or not. Believe what you want. I bet you Believe Chicago is for Superman, Spiderman, King Kong, and every other Superhero that hasn't been there.
Imagine that, A few shoots in Chicago and all of a sudden you all want to claim Gotham as Chicago's very own. What about all of those Batman movies before those two? Hmm, any takes? Was Chicago Gotham then too?
But to answer the original question I liked it best in NYC, more dense. Less gaps.
I can't believe you actually typed "hmm". As a question. I mean, insofar as being a pretentious ******* is concerned, you've just upgraded yourself to reviled prick.
New York may have been some sort of alter-Gotham. But frankly, it ain't got the goods. Chicago, with its samples of heavy and repressive Gothic architecture, has been the setting for Batman three times now.
So if it looks like Chicago, and it smells like Chicago... New York can't hold the water.
Also, Chicago has capital corruption down like no other city on earth save Bangkok.
Ok, honestly I have kept an open mind. However here is where I see it differently than you.
One, I'll give you per rate Chicago is more violent. However, NY has gangs, thugs lowlifes etc too. It's not exactly Disney world.
You mention architecture, this is where I think your argument is very week. NY epitomizes goth architecture. If anything Chicago goes for the more modern look, whereas NY is a mixture between goth and new.
You mentioned Chicago is presented in a certain way, NY even in its most lit up areas (times square) are very dark because of the density of buildings which hinder the light.
You mention steam, welcome to NY. Steam is coming out of everywhere especially manholes.
You mention NY was better in the 60's and 70's saying, "it was a live action show and cartoon". I say it still is, the only difference is we dont have as much crime as we used to.
However, you have to understand NY has a cop on every corner. When they do that to Chicago you will see that crime will significantly decrease there as well.
So if all of your argument falls down to crime when all of your other arguments are countered, then wouldn't Detroit be a better pick?
You didn't really respond to all of my post. It was mostly political corruption and the feel of the citizens of Chicago as well that makes it more Gotham than NYC.
I strongly disagree with you on the goth architecture. I think New York is much more modern and new looking, where Chicago has much more goth architecture. It's not really a question of quality, but Chicago has a lot of architecture that feels like it came straight from the Rust Belt, a city that Gotham seems to greatly resemble.
I honestly didn't get a "Gotham" feel from the city in the Dark Knight. Sure it had Batman and the Joker but it didn't feel like Gotham. When I'm reading Batman: Year One I have a hard time trying to imagine Bruce Wayne in any place but New York after dark.
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