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Old 07-06-2023, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Miami has a higher walkscore than Philadelphia which is laughable. Miami is nowhere near as urban or walkable as Philly.
They have Miami at the same number as DC and Chicago which I find hysterical. I have long history in all three and Miami isn’t near these two cities let alone Philadelphia as walkable cities. Every time my family from Miami visits me in DC, they talk about how people like to walk around up here.
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Old 07-06-2023, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Research Triangle Area, NC
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Miami has a higher walkscore than Philadelphia which is laughable. Miami is nowhere near as urban or walkable as Philly.
While you are certainly entitled to your opinion....it is worth noting that that is all this is...your opinion.
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Old 07-06-2023, 11:41 PM
 
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How is Miami not sunbelt? Miami is the epitome of sunbelt. It’s dense but it isn’t anything but sunbelt.
Sunbelt in climate, yes, but Miami is highly a-typical for sunbelt cities. It is dense, walkable, and very, very vertical in its core areas. This is why Miami and Miami Beach have extremely high walk scores (whether the scores are as high as in a great old walking city like Philly is legitimately open to debate). And while far from perfect, Greater Miami's, indeed the entire Southland's public transit network far exceeds those of fellow sunbelt cities.

Look around even in the State of Florida: at places like Jacksonville, Daytona, Orlando, and Tampa-St. Pete-- far more typical sprawly sunbelt cities. That's not to say there isn't sprawl in Greater Miami... there is, but it is far more linear -- mainly up the coast along the I-95 (and now Brightline - Tri-Rail corridor). And with amazing dense/tight/transit-oriented retail/residential walking districts like Brickell, South Miami and, yes, even South Beach, there is far more kinetic urban energy than in the typical Jacksonville-San Antonio-Houston sprawly-unfocused metro cities.
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Old 07-07-2023, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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While you are certainly entitled to your opinion....it is worth noting that that is all this is...your opinion.
You feel that Miami is anywhere near Philly in urbanity and walkability? Ok lol
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Old 07-07-2023, 09:46 AM
 
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Let's break out the commute stats from census.gov's 2021 ACS (during Covid btw).

Miami metro: 1.4% walk
Philly metro: 2.7% walk

Miami city: 5.1% walk
Philadelphia city: 6.4% walk

The last one surprised me, but Philly covers a much larger area, and they had a 24-17 lead in working from home in 2021, mid-Covid.
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Old 07-07-2023, 01:07 PM
 
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Definitely easier to live in Miami without a car than just about anywhere else in the South.
Outside of maybe midtown Atlanta.
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Old 07-07-2023, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Outside of maybe midtown Atlanta.
Miami is more walkable than Atlanta including Midtown Atlanta. If you reduce Atlanta to one neighborhood, you may as well do the same to Miami. There’s a good number of areas in Miami/Miami Beach that are more walkable than Midtown Atlanta. City wide and Metro wise, Miami destroys Atlanta at being walkable. On the MSA wide note, Miami benefits from being basically a straight line. So tri rail and bright line connect most of the major cities in SoFlo.
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Old 07-07-2023, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Miami is more walkable than Atlanta including Midtown Atlanta. If you reduce Atlanta to one neighborhood, you may as well do the same to Miami. There’s a good number of areas in Miami/Miami Beach that are more walkable than Midtown Atlanta. City wide and Metro wise, Miami destroys Atlanta at being walkable. On the MSA wide note, Miami benefits from being basically a straight line. So tri rail and bright line connect most of the major cities in SoFlo.
Brickell resembles a vertical suburb on many blocks, with huge gated and fenced off lawn dead zones. Several blocks west of Biscayne density drops like a rock in many places. Midtown Atlanta is much more urban and cohesive than much of Miami, and MARTA destroys Metrorail in ridership.
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Old 07-07-2023, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Brickell resembles a vertical suburb on many blocks, with huge gated and fenced off lawn dead zones. Several blocks west of Biscayne density drops like a rock in many places. Midtown Atlanta is much more urban and cohesive than much of Miami, and MARTA destroys Metrorail in ridership.
Sure, but again, like Shenard, you’re conveniently picking neighborhoods. Buckhead certainly fits the “vertical suburb” description more than Brickell. Basically, the entire city of Miami Beach is more walkable than all of Atlanta. Atleast everything south of Dade Blvd.

Cohesive? Sure. You’ll catch some oddly placed structures in the middle of very urban neighborhoods. Being that Atlanta isn’t a very walkable city, this doesn’t affect how they rank against eachother.
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Old 07-07-2023, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Sure, but again, like Shenard, you’re conveniently picking neighborhoods. Buckhead certainly fits the “vertical suburb” description more than Brickell. Basically, the entire city of Miami Beach is more walkable than all of Atlanta. Atleast everything south of Dade Blvd.

Cohesive? Sure. You’ll catch some oddly placed structures in the middle of very urban neighborhoods. Being that Atlanta isn’t a very walkable city, this doesn’t affect how they rank against eachother.
Miami Beach is on a different plane than Miami. Miami isn't as urban as it thinks it is in many places.
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