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Old 08-30-2013, 07:03 AM
 
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I have thought about it. I don't think there are diverse suburbs and school districts outside of the Sunbelt. To some metrics, the NE metros beat the country in diversity, but when integration is factored in, these same metros in the NE fall drastically.
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Old 08-30-2013, 07:33 AM
 
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I have thought about it. I don't think there are diverse suburbs and school districts outside of the Sunbelt. To some metrics, the NE metros beat the country in diversity, but when integration is factored in, these same metros in the NE fall drastically.
The Sunbelt fails miserably in racial integration as well. If anything I would say the North/Northeast are more racially integrated from my experiences.
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Old 08-30-2013, 07:38 AM
 
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I have thought about it. I don't think there are diverse suburbs and school districts outside of the Sunbelt. To some metrics, the NE metros beat the country in diversity, but when integration is factored in, these same metros in the NE fall drastically.
I wouldn't say so.

LA is fairly segregated racially, and very much so economically.

Seattle is pretty integrated in both ways.
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Old 08-30-2013, 07:56 AM
 
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The Sunbelt fails miserably in racial integration as well. If anything I would say the North/Northeast are more racially integrated from my experiences.

The Northeast is more segregated. A child in Brooklyn does not have the same educational opportunities of that of a child who lives in Manhattan. I grew up in the Sunbelt, and I attended schools that were diverse racially and economically. The high school I attended enrolled students from all soceoeconomical backgrounds. This is in Orlando, and I doubt it would be any different in other regions across the new Sunbelt.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:09 AM
 
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The sunbelt school districts tend to be county based districts or in general tend to encompass larger areas and a given school can draw students from multiple (socioeconomically differing) municipalities; this leads the schools to be more diverse- but this isn't necessarily because the individual municipalities they draw students from are more diverse than their northern counterparts, but rather because a given school can draw from multiple municipalities, each wither a differing socioeconomic makeup from the one next to it.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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The Northeast is more segregated. A child in Brooklyn does not have the same educational opportunities of that of a child who lives in Manhattan. I grew up in the Sunbelt, and I attended schools that were diverse racially and economically. The high school I attended enrolled students from all soceoeconomical backgrounds. This is in Orlando, and I doubt it would be any different in other regions across the new Sunbelt.
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The sunbelt school districts tend to be county based districts or in general tend to encompass larger areas and a given school can draw students from multiple (socioeconomically differing) municipalities; this leads the schools to be more diverse- but this isn't necessarily because the individual municipalities they draw students from are more diverse than their northern counterparts, but rather because a given school can draw from multiple municipalities, each wither a differing socioeconomic makeup from the one next to it.
Exactly. Students in Brooklyn wouldn't attend schools in Manhattan and vice versa due to population density and logistics. There are many areas in the North/Northeast just like places in the Sunbelt where it's identical in terms of school districting and using one of the world's largest cities as an example against emphasizes a lack of knowledge about the rest of the country in general. Trust me as someone familair with both areas, Orlando isn't some kind of progressive example for the rest of the country to follow.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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The sunbelt school districts tend to be county based districts or in general tend to encompass larger areas and a given school can draw students from multiple (socioeconomically differing) municipalities; this leads the schools to be more diverse- but this isn't necessarily because the individual municipalities they draw students from are more diverse than their northern counterparts, but rather because a given school can draw from multiple municipalities, each wither a differing socioeconomic makeup from the one next to it.

Sunbelt suburbs are also more integrated.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:27 AM
 
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Sunbelt suburbs are also more integrated.
Nope, not even close.....particularly when factoring black and white versus hispanic.

Which U.S. Cities Are Most, Least Racially Diverse? - Real Time Economics - WSJ
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:08 AM
 
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In terms of a combination of integration and per capita income gaps between Whites and Blacks, Hispanics and Asians, the Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown metro in NY is one of the best among top 100 metro areas.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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In terms of a combination of integration and per capita income gaps between Whites and Blacks, Hispanics and Asians, the Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown metro in NY is one of the best among top 100 metro areas.

How exactly does that work? From what I know (and I'll admit I've never been there ) Newburgh is supposed to be one of the poorest, most crime-ridden, drug-infested spots in the Northeast, while Poughkeepsie is only a cut above that. So what is the "best " thing here we're talking about with racial and economic diversity? Hoodrats liberally sprinkled evenly about the MSA? That doesn't sound very appealing.
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