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Old 10-07-2007, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Note that I was not laughing at that ridiculous October weather in Chicago-------just that us folks here in the Phoenix area deal with 100F heat indices for 2-3 months in the summer so we are prepared for it.

In all fairness though; us 'lizards' do chuckle when the '4 seasons' crowd smirk @ our summers.

As for Midwest winters; we have Flagstaff (125 miles N of Phx) if we need our '4 seasons' fix
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Note that I was not laughing at that ridiculous October weather in Chicago-------just that us folks here in the Phoenix area deal with 100F heat indices for 2-3 months in the summer so we are prepared for it.

In all fairness though; us 'lizards' do chuckle when the '4 seasons' crowd smirk @ our summers.

As for Midwest winters; we have Flagstaff (125 miles N of Phx) if we need our '4 seasons' fix
And that's why the phoenix marathon is run in January, where the average high is in the low 60's.
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:35 PM
 
Location: yeah
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It is very rare for it to be this warm in October (we broke a record that was set in the 1940's today) and the marathon organizers were not prepared for the heat (there was not enough water) nor were the casual runners who are used to running in cooler temperatures.

So for those of you in warmer temperatures who would mock us, well, how about we send over our traditional February cold front over to you and see exactly how well your respective metros would handle coordinating an event on an unexpected windy subzero temperature day.
Send over the weather. We'll be sure to adjust accordingly.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:14 AM
 
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humidity is the killer for marathon runners. Two people died in New York back in 1994 with temp was just around 67 degrees (humidity at 78 percent)

Mexican and a Kenyan Triumph in the Heat - New York Times

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Old 10-08-2007, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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88? What the hell is wrong with people?
Let's see you run a marathon in any weather. Then come back and ask that question. Except you won't have to since you'll probably already have your answer.
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:47 AM
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Send over the weather. We'll be sure to adjust accordingly.
Easier said than done bud. Now quit thumping your chest, anyone with a clue about how marathons and the coordination of large civic events knows this. You apparently do not. I'm sure that if the Phoenix or bay area marathon suddenly had temperatures 25 degrees higher than normal coupled with dangerously high humidity, they'd have a similar situation on hand. In fact, I'm certain of it.
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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So for those of you in warmer temperatures who would mock us, well, how about we send over our traditional February cold front over to you and see exactly how well your respective metros would handle coordinating an event on an unexpected windy subzero temperature day.
Please don't!
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:28 PM
 
Location: yeah
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Easier said than done bud. Now quit thumping your chest, anyone with a clue about how marathons and the coordination of large civic events knows this. You apparently do not. I'm sure that if the Phoenix or bay area marathon suddenly had temperatures 25 degrees higher than normal coupled with dangerously high humidity, they'd have a similar situation on hand. In fact, I'm certain of it.
Higher than normal? Why is that a factor? It's a city a couple months removed from 88-degree heat on some days. It's not like 115 degrees in Nunavut. I don't see how it being October has anything to do with the temperature becoming a greater factor. It's no more "devastating" than an 88-degree Chicago day in July.

Basically, if it's too hot then don't run. October should have nothing to do with it.
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:55 PM
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Yes it is. People train for specific temperatures and their training regiments reflect that. Talk to any serious runner and you will be told that. From my reading on this incident, it is those with no running background whatsoever who make silly comments like "omg, it was only 88 degree, what's wrong with you bunch 'a wimps".

forgettaboutit, I can see you have your mind made up and it is firmly clamped shut on this matter.
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Old 10-08-2007, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I don't see how it being October has anything to do with the temperature becoming a greater factor. It's no more "devastating" than an 88-degree Chicago day in July.
Which is why they hold the marathon in October and not July. Are you being deliberately thick?
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