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Old 08-21-2020, 03:15 PM
 
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nope, sorry.......fail

There's been no change in the rate of sea level rise in 100 years.....just exactly the same up and down cycles it's always had

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8723214
Again, more baloney from a person who claims to know more than the scientific experts on any topic and can't comprehend accurately empirical data.

Here's a very interesting observation that I've never seen before that makes examining sea level rise before 1980 somewhat useless.

<<In addition, the new study found that during the 1970s, when dam construction was at its peak, sea level rise slowed to a crawl. Dams create reservoirs that can impound freshwater that would normally flow straight into the sea.

"That was one of the biggest surprises for me," said lead researcher Thomas Frederikse, a postdoctoral fellow at JPL, referring to the peak in global dam projects at that time. "We impounded so much freshwater, humanity nearly brought sea level rise to a halt.">>

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7731

Not mentioned in this article is that China has been filling some very large reservoirs, such as Three Gorges, in the last 15 years. Apparently, these new reservoirs have been offset by shrinkage in other artificial reservoirs such as Lake Mead and Lake Powell in the U.S.

https://coloradosun.com/2019/08/16/c...ll-water-cuts/

<<Since the 1990s, however, Greenland and Antarctic ice sheet mass loss and thermal expansion have accelerated sea level rise, while freshwater impoundment has decreased. As our climate continues to warm, the majority of this thermal energy is absorbed by the oceans, causing the volume of the water to expand. In fact, ice sheet melt and thermal expansion now account for about two-thirds of observed global mean sea level rise.>> Per the first linked article.

And past history remains irrelevant given the accelerating ice sheet melting both in Greenland and Antarctica. This will accelerate further if the solar cycle, as expected, moves off its current nadir in the months and years immediately ahead.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...vity-cycle-sdo

Where do you think all this water ends up? Or do you believe that the world's scientists are lying about the accelerating rates of ice melt?

<<The records of Greenland's ice melt date back to 1948 and nothing in that record compares to what happened in 2019. The amount of ice lost was more than double what it has been any year since 2013. The net ice loss in 2019 clocked in at more than 530 billion metric tons for 2019. To put that in context, that's as if seven Olympic-sized swimming pools were dumped into the ocean every second of the year, according to The Guardian.

The new study, which used NASA satellite data to measure the size of Greenland's ice, found that in July alone, Greenland lost 223 billion tons of ice. That means for that one month, it lost what it normally loses in an entire year, according to The New York Times.>>

https://www.ecowatch.com/greenland-i...1#rebelltitem1

This NOAA article says that mean average sea level rose 0.23 inches from 2018 to 2019, much less than claimed by the Palm Beach Post. However, contrary to the falsehood of no acceleration in sea level rise in post 5, NOAA details the acceleration of sea level rise.

<<From 2018 to 2019, global sea level rose 0.24 inches (6.1 millimeters).

The global mean water level in the ocean rose by 0.14 inches (3.6 millimeters) per year from 2006–2015, which was 2.5 times the average rate of 0.06 inches (1.4 millimeters) per year throughout most of the twentieth century....

* Ice loss from the Greenland Ice Sheet increased seven-fold from 34 billion tons per year between 1992-2001 to 247 billion tons per year between 2012 and 2016.

* Antarctic ice loss nearly quadrupled from 51 billion tons per year between 1992 and 2001 to 199 billion tons per year from 2012-2016.

As a result, the amount of sea level rise due to melting (with a small addition from groundwater transfer and other water storage shifts) from 2005–2013 was nearly twice the amount of sea level rise due to thermal expansion. >>

https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...%20millimeters).

The chart in this article shows that mean sea level rise could be as much as a foot or more by 2030.

https://www.wlrn.org/environment/201...her-and-faster

The column by the University of Miami's Harold Wanless, one of Florida's foremost experts on sea level rise, explains why sea level rise in Florida will exceed global averages.

<<This means that South Florida should add 35 percent to 72 percent additional rise to the GMSL projections. The total relative sea-level rise for South Florida by 2046 could thus be 2.7 to 3.4 feet, and within 50 years could be 5.7 to 7.2 feet. This is not an encouraging future when you look at elevation maps of South Florida or most any other coast.>>

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion...620-story.html

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Old 08-21-2020, 04:07 PM
 
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Again, more baloney from a person who claims to know more than the scientific experts on any topic and can't comprehend accurately empirical data.
Empirical data....is what's observed....and exactly what you are not doing...

The claim is "That sea level bloat is also 1.5 inches higher than it was in 2018"

2018 is cherry picking of the worse and most dishonest kind....people could call it flat out lying

....2018 was an outlier....one of the lowest sea levels recorded....so low it is a little lower than sea level was back in 1948....70 years before that

When you cherry pick the lowest recorded sea level and start there...you can show an increase in the rate of sea level rise

...and that is about as dishonest as it gets
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Old 08-22-2020, 02:23 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Not a scientist but I think if accurate records and minute details/info were kept for the past thousands, millions of years, one would realize that the earth goes through some very drastic changes, and none of these changes we see today will shock us

Heck, Pangea split up 175 million years ago
In the meantime, Earth's wobble, tilt, rotation, and orbit are not uniform over periods of tens of thousands and millions of years, nor does Sun stay still in suspended animation forever while humans prance around, kicking up tiny clouds of puffed up self-importance.

Again, nothing new under the sun.

Life is a series of short-runs.

Breath easy while you can.

Enjoy!

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Old 08-22-2020, 04:35 PM
 
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Empirical data....is what's observed....and exactly what you are not doing...

The claim is "That sea level bloat is also 1.5 inches higher than it was in 2018"

2018 is cherry picking of the worse and most dishonest kind....people could call it flat out lying

....2018 was an outlier....one of the lowest sea levels recorded....so low it is a little lower than sea level was back in 1948....70 years before that

When you cherry pick the lowest recorded sea level and start there...you can show an increase in the rate of sea level rise

...and that is about as dishonest as it gets
Good points.
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Old 08-23-2020, 09:56 AM
 
Location: OCNJ and or lower Florida keys
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So they say
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Citrus countyFL
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Dont conpiracy theories belong in the "politics and controversies forum"??
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Old 08-25-2020, 05:20 AM
 
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Fifteen years ago we were supposed to be under water by now. These predictors keep pushing off the dates.
And every summer, they show you a big piece of ice fall off the arctic or Antarctica as proof.
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Old 08-25-2020, 05:33 AM
 
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Look..

Over there.....

The magnetic poles are shifting!
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Old 08-29-2020, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Yesterday, a Polar Bear ate a person in Norway because of global warming and sea level rise (no more seals to eat).

Due to the shifting magnetic poles, Polar Bears are migrating to Florida...beware!

The North and South poles are melting, and Florida will become an icy wasteland....full of Polar Bears.

Everything WR said is coming true, and a lot sooner than all the scientists thought

I'm moving to Lookout Mountain Tennessee because its 2,388 above sea level. The only home builder/developer there is WRnative Homes, LLC!
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Old 08-29-2020, 11:05 AM
 
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Yesterday, a Polar Bear ate a person in Norway because of global warming and sea level rise (no more seals to eat).

Due to the shifting magnetic poles, Polar Bears are migrating to Florida...beware!

The North and South poles are melting, and Florida will become an icy wasteland....full of Polar Bears.

Everything WR said is coming true, and a lot sooner than all the scientists thought

I'm moving to Lookout Mountain Tennessee because its 2,388 above sea level. The only home builder/developer there is WRnative Homes, LLC!

<< “I became good at pretending. I became so good that after a while the lines blurred between my truth and fiction. And sometimes, when I did a really good job of pretending, I even fooled myself.” >>
― Ruta Sepetys, Salt to the Sea


https://www.goodreads.com/work/quote...alt-to-the-sea


You're not good at sarcasm, but you get the idea, and it applies to all snake oil consumers who promote scientific ignorance and who mock empirical reality.


Sadly, only when accelerating sea level becomes an even more obvious reality, will the fools recede into their holes. In the meantime, the world ignores ever more pressing and frequent warnings of unanticipated calamity.


https://www.newscientist.com/article...ea-level-rise/

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