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Old 01-23-2014, 05:37 PM
 
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Kyle, you're dead wrong, the school you go to is a great deal more important than what you actually learn at school. Meeting the right people and making the right connections, which can only occur if you are in the right place, is the best path to being in the front of line for the best jobs, in fact there will be no line at all if you meet the right people.

In most industries employers care very little about the skills their employees posses.
True in business and law. Completely untrue in health related fields. Mixed bag in science and engineering
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:45 AM
 
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Kyle, you're dead wrong, the school you go to is a great deal more important than what you actually learn at school. Meeting the right people and making the right connections, which can only occur if you are in the right place, is the best path to being in the front of line for the best jobs, in fact there will be no line at all if you meet the right people.

In most industries employers care very little about the skills their employees posses.
That's an old stereotype that people love to cling to in order to make themselves feel even better about having gained acceptance to a "prestige" school, but your high if you think that dictates some kind of automatic success. While some who cling to the stereotype that attending certain schools automatically makes you qualified and who happen to be influential in the hiring process may continue that practice, I can guarantee HR departments are not separating stacks of resumes by college attended. You are correct that networking is very useful, but there isn't a disqualifier for those who attend certain colleges. Personally I would rather hire a more well-rounded individual who worked hard to maintain a 3.5 GPA and graduated from a regional university versus some 4.4 GPA egghead who graduated from a prestige school complete with a "you owe me, know it all" attitude.
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:47 AM
 
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True in business and law. Completely untrue in health related fields. Mixed bag in science and engineering
I agree at the graduate level, and nearly irrelevant from the undergraduate perspective.
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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I agree at the graduate level, and nearly irrelevant from the undergraduate perspective.
Hey man, if a recent average Harvard graduate and the best and brightest graduate ever from the University of Central Florida are interested in the same job at a place like JPMorganChase & CO, the UCF graduate would not even get a second look, while the Harvard grad gets hired without even being interviewed for real.


Look friend, nobody in the USA cares about how smart you are or how many skills you have or about how hard you work, the only things that are important is going to the right places, meeting the right people and being able to lie, cheat and steal your way to the top.
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Old 01-24-2014, 12:15 PM
 
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Hey man, if a recent average Harvard graduate and the best and brightest graduate ever from the University of Central Florida are interested in the same job at a place like JPMorganChase & CO, the UCF graduate would not even get a second look, while the Harvard grad gets hired without even being interviewed for real.
And if the Harvard guy went to harvard med school and the UCF guy went to UCF med school and the UCF beat the harvard guy on the med school exams, he'd get as good or better a residency spot than the harvard guy. Name means nothing outside of law or business/finance.
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Old 01-25-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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Hey man, if a recent average Harvard graduate and the best and brightest graduate ever from the University of Central Florida are interested in the same job at a place like JPMorganChase & CO, the UCF graduate would not even get a second look, while the Harvard grad gets hired without even being interviewed for real.


Look friend, nobody in the USA cares about how smart you are or how many skills you have or about how hard you work, the only things that are important is going to the right places, meeting the right people and being able to lie, cheat and steal your way to the top.
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And if the Harvard guy went to harvard med school and the UCF guy went to UCF med school and the UCF beat the harvard guy on the med school exams, he'd get as good or better a residency spot than the harvard guy. Name means nothing outside of law or business/finance.
Exactly Chopchop. And pulling Harvard out as an example is rather extreme since outside the top dozen or so colleges in the country, it's completely irrelevant to anyone with any sense.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:54 AM
 
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Without hesitation, UF and FSU.
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Old 01-27-2014, 10:00 AM
 
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And if the Harvard guy went to harvard med school and the UCF guy went to UCF med school and the UCF beat the harvard guy on the med school exams, he'd get as good or better a residency spot than the harvard guy. Name means nothing outside of law or business/finance.

I wonder why a majority of top medical positions are filled by graduates from top medical schools like Harvard, Stanford, Johns Hopkins, University of Cali, University of Penn and Duke rather than the University of Central Florida.

Chances of great success are increased significantly by going to the right University, you, highly drunk off the lies told to you by the treasonous right wing will probably tell me about the one great graduate of UCF who went on to cure cancer, ignoring the 99.9% that did not manage to do anything spectacular and then claim attending a certain school is not an advantage and everybody in the USA has an equal chance for great success.
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Old 01-27-2014, 10:52 AM
 
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Exactly Chopchop. And pulling Harvard out as an example is rather extreme since outside the top dozen or so colleges in the country, it's completely irrelevant to anyone with any sense.
I'm sure the assistant manager at Burger King is full of sense and doesn't care very much about what college the maintenance guy attended, but please know there is a world that you are obviously not part of where people actually do care a great deal about things that you find irrelevant.
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Old 01-27-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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I wonder why a majority of top medical positions are filled by graduates from top medical schools like Harvard, Stanford, Johns Hopkins, University of Cali, University of Penn and Duke rather than the University of Central Florida.

Chances of great success are increased significantly by going to the right University, you, highly drunk off the lies told to you by the treasonous right wing will probably tell me about the one great graduate of UCF who went on to cure cancer, ignoring the 99.9% that did not manage to do anything spectacular and then claim attending a certain school is not an advantage and everybody in the USA has an equal chance for great success.


Top medical positions is very subjective and a derm training at UF or a derm training at harvard will easily bank low-to-mid six figures regardless of which institution they did undergrad, med school or residency at. It's not like business or law and It's pretty clear you don't understand Where most doctors come from or the process of becoming a doctor in the first place.
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