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Old 03-15-2011, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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It's pretty, but I still wouldn't plunk cash down on it even if I had the money to do it...not when you can get a Camaro or Mustang that's only 1 sec slower for 30K. Hell, even my Camry goes 0-60 in 5.8 seconds.

It just isn't worth the cash for mere "prestige"
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:17 AM
 
Location: California
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Ah, well, since I never wanted the Vantage, that issue would never arise... Like I'd ever be able to own one anyhow.

A lot of sports cars and exotics are tempermental, and some models worse than others. It'd be like saying, well, a lot of Ford Escorts had fatal head gasket problems, so I'd never own a Shelby.
I fully understand what your saying...but I think, in our case, it was the whole Aston Martin experience, that soured us on the company. While we came out ahead in the end, it was still a long, stressful journey getting there.
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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Aston Martin has horrible build quality. I met several people who owned one who quickly got rid of them for things like random engine shutdowns, the entire dash peeling away, and other quality control issues.
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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So what do you guys think? Looks pretty great to me, just like their other, newer models, why change what works right? A slight evolution, but staying true to the line up, I really like it.
First, I think it's splitting hairs in an already rarefied market served well by Aston's offerings above and below the Virage. Second, I think Aston practices brand-unifying design language to a fault. Unless you're an Aston aficionado it's rather difficult to tell one from the other and it's hard to know what niche each is supposed to serve.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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I think it looks 85% like the current car.

Which isn't a bad thing per se, it's just kind of underwhelming.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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First, I think it's splitting hairs in an already rarefied market served well by Aston's offerings above and below the Virage. Second, I think Aston practices brand-unifying design language to a fault. Unless you're an Aston aficionado it's rather difficult to tell one from the other and it's hard to know what niche each is supposed to serve.
Were it called a DB9 GT it might be more palatable to people. There's a dozen different varieties of Mustang, for example. The 911 has a bunch of flavors. This is like the Carrera S to the regular 911's Carrera and GT3 variants. or like the Mustang BOSS 302 vs the Mustang GT premium (i.e. DB9) or the GT500 (DBS)

In Aston's case, they got a nearly perfect automotive design and changing it for the sake of changing it would be kind of silly. Complaining about it is like complaining that a beautiful girl has a couple beautiful sisters, and when you find out that there's yet another sister that's as beautiful, you complain that their parents didn't make an ugly one just to be differnt...

It would MAYBE be an issue if there were as many of them as there are Camrys, but seriously, all Astons could look alike and they could make them for the next 20 years and you'd see less of them than on day's worth of Accords. So who really cares other than a very rich person that has to park his next to two others in front of his favorite restaurant...
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Austintown, OH
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Shelby,

Your situation sounds a lot like a problem my grandparents had with their Jaguar in the early 90's. Crazy!
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Were it called a DB9 GT it might be more palatable to people. There's a dozen different varieties of Mustang, for example. The 911 has a bunch of flavors. This is like the Carrera S to the regular 911's Carrera and GT3 variants. or like the Mustang BOSS 302 vs the Mustang GT premium (i.e. DB9) or the GT500 (DBS)
If you're going to compare Aston Martin's entire lineup to variations of a single model in Ford or Porsche's lineup, then A/M might as well acknowledge what I basically accused them of -- namely, that their entire lineup is all variations on the same car. I agree with you to a large extent that Porsche splits hairs with the countless variations of its 911 model... but then again, it's not the only car Porsche makes.

As for the rest of your post... uhm... OK, if you say so.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:10 PM
 
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If you read the article, Drover, you'd see that the person who drove it found it to, in most ways, eliminate both the DB9 and the DBS, as it was a better all rounder. As such, they might very well just be stealing customers from within their own buyers. That said, it could be that this marks the beginning of the end of the DB9 line, and that they just don't want to disclose that yet.

As for similar looks, yes, but how can you blame them when they look so infinitely lovely? I do think the differences are significant enough to easily keep tabs on the various models. Maybe not so much for people who aren't that into cars, but they usually don't know what an AM is anyway.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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If you read the article, Drover, you'd see that the person who drove it found it to, in most ways, eliminate both the DB9 and the DBS, as it was a better all rounder. As such, they might very well just be stealing customers from within their own buyers. That said, it could be that this marks the beginning of the end of the DB9 line, and that they just don't want to disclose that yet.

As for similar looks, yes, but how can you blame them when they look so infinitely lovely? I do think the differences are significant enough to easily keep tabs on the various models. Maybe not so much for people who aren't that into cars, but they usually don't know what an AM is anyway.
But the question is, should it be the end of the DB9 line, or should it be the end of the Vantage line with its underpowered V8 iteration and its now-redundant V12 iteration? I mean, it wouldn't be a bad idea to keep the "entry-level" V8 Vantage around even if its performance is a little underwhelming for six-figure sports car territory. Maybe this should be the replacement for the V12 Vantage instead of the DB9? Or maybe it should just replace both? Who knows -- that's how fragmented the A/M lineup has become (minus the Rapide whose mission is clearly distinguishable from the rest of the line).

As for the similar looks... I have no disagreement with a cohesive design language across a single brand -- in fact it makes perfect sense. But there's a threshold where "cohesion" crosses the line into "nearly identical," and in Aston's case, the very similar lines across the lineup only adds to the confusion about what model is supposed to serve what niche -- again, the Rapide excluded for obvious reasons.

I don't mean to argue that A/Ms aren't great-looking cars. I think they are, not to mention uniquely elegant in an often flamboyant exotic sports-car segment. I just wish they had enough imagination to vary the look a little more from model to model.
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