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The true Sicilian tribes are primarily desert people with trade routes to North Africa and southern Spain. They are Jewish and were distinguished for their combinations of the colors of purple and yellow clothing, and they wore bright red head bands and wore leather thongs. They understood the ocean waters and were forced to live further inland in the mountains. Primarily medical in focus, they needed to go into hiding because of other outside forces needing waterways.
The true Sicilian tribes are primarily desert people with trade routes to North Africa and southern Spain. They are Jewish and were distinguished for their combinations of the colors of purple and yellow clothing, and they wore bright red head bands and wore leather thongs. They understood the ocean waters and were forced to live further inland in the mountains. Primarily medical in focus, they needed to go into hiding because of other outside forces needing waterways.
The true Sicilian tribes are primarily desert people with trade routes to North Africa and southern Spain. They are Jewish and were distinguished for their combinations of the colors of purple and yellow clothing, and they wore bright red head bands and wore leather thongs. They understood the ocean waters and were forced to live further inland in the mountains. Primarily medical in focus, they needed to go into hiding because of other outside forces needing waterways.
Another of those Americans who still believe to know everything about their country and region of origin when they have never actually lived there.
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Originally Posted by Irene-cd
I think a lot of italians are regionalistic like spaniards and don't consider themselves italians
lombardini are lombardini, piamontesi are piamontesi.... napolitani are napolitani, and siciliani are siciliano
ITALIANI = ROMANI
We are very regionalistic but i think that a large part of us would consider ourselves to be Italians before being from a specific area. Campanilism and city rivalries still exist and not only in football but they aren't what they used to be, nowadays independist movements and parties are all dying off with the exception of Lega Nord which is more of a federalist party than anything else.
Another of those Americans who still believe they know everything about their country and region of origin when they have never actually lived there.
I don't think so, some of the grammar appears too awkward to be a native English speaker/writer, it could even have been machine-translated (the spelling is perfect).
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The true Sicilian tribes are primarily desert people with trade routes to North Africa and southern Spain. They are Jewish and were distinguished for their combinations of the colors of purple and yellow clothing, and they wore bright red head bands and wore leather thongs. They understood the ocean waters and were forced to live further inland in the mountains. Primarily medical in focus, they needed to go into hiding because of other outside forces needing waterways.
What ocean waters? Really?
Having said that, it is quite probable that peoples from Africa and the eastern Mediterranean, e.g. Carthaginians/Phoencians and quite possibly including Judaeans, and certainly Minoans, comprised the peoples of ancient Sicily, among others.
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... nowadays independence movements and parties are all dying off with the exception of Lega Nord which is more of a federalist party than anything else.
The Lega Nord may have been federalist in the late 1980s/early 1990s, especially a few fringe intellectuals, but since the mid-1990s among the actual leadership it has been a stepping stone for a career in politics, regardless of this or that ideology, like for most any other politician the world over. In terms of real outcomes, what have Lega Nord politicians actually accomplished besides government salaries and pensions for themselves? Do you think the leadership of Syriza in Greece will do anything different?
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We are very regionalistic but I think that a large part of us would consider ourselves to be Italians before being from a specific area. Provincialism and city rivalries still exist and not only in football but they aren't what they used to be ...
Italy and Europe are maybe? Becoming now cosmopolitan..in the sense of a pole of attraction for people from all the world (thought for the dimensions of Europe this is possible till a certain x year; America is bigger and will be always cosmopolitan.
Yes, I do feel a strong regional identity on me and many people do too; also because distances in Europe are smaller but.. There are many languages and subcultures.
Example (I think you know this btw ).. Americans expecially in north America? Are used to move in big distances..there is no way an American will be still unmoving in a single place his entire life.. He will change home and home many times in his life hopping from a state to another.. Thus he will be less radicated to a land/culture.
An European...well is difficult that a Dutch will move to Italy, than to Greece, than to Bulgaria..he probably would stay in his same village the rest of his life. Because he has his traditions of ducth culture/people and maybe he would feel not well integrating in the Italian culture.
Till 60 years ago we were an agricultural continent..people stayed rooted literary to the piece of land they were born to work/cultivate it for his life. That s way strong local/regional/city culture arises very strong
I don't think so, some of the grammar appears too awkward to be a native English speaker/writer, it could even have been machine-translated (the spelling is perfect).
The Lega Nord may have been federalist in the late 1980s/early 1990s, especially a few fringe intellectuals, but since the mid-1990s among the actual leadership it has been a stepping stone for a career in politics, regardless of this or that ideology, like for most any other politician the world over. In terms of real outcomes, what have Lega Nord politicians actually accomplished besides government salaries and pensions for themselves? Do you think the leadership of Syriza in Greece will do anything different?
Indeed, to answer the OP's question.
I don't know, sometimes it's pretty hard to differantiate a native English speaker to the rest on Internet.
Yeah, you're right, for the most part they haven't achieved anything, they managed to pass and decide on a few laws like the current electoral law (Porcellum, one of the most disastrous electoral laws ever known by mankind ) which is about to get changed and the current immigration law (Legge Bossi-Fini). Like most parties, they still adhere to certain ideologies even though it has obviously become a way to enter politics.
The true Sicilian tribes are primarily desert people with trade routes to North Africa and southern Spain. They are Jewish and were distinguished for their combinations of the colors of purple and yellow clothing, and they wore bright red head bands and wore leather thongs. They understood the ocean waters and were forced to live further inland in the mountains. Primarily medical in focus, they needed to go into hiding because of other outside forces needing waterways.
no.
Althought there were Carthaginians and Phoenicians colonies in Sicily.
Sicilian ancient tribes: italics=siculians; elimi=from anatolia; sicani=maybe related to Iberian/basques; greeks; carthaginians
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).. Americans expecially in north America? Are used to move in big distances..there is no way an American will be still unmoving in a single place his entire life.. He will change home and home many times in his life hopping from a state to another.. Thus he will be less radicated to a land/culture.
) which is about to get changed and the current immigration law (Legge Bossi-Fini). Like most parties, they still adhere to certain ideologies even though it has obviously become a way to enter politics.
no.
