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Old 04-16-2018, 02:36 PM
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Destructions are not too big.
Are you trying to say that video shows the attack was unsuccessful?
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:46 PM
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Some specifics for the new sanctions on the US.

No more titanium for Boeing?

If not they better find some. Russia already has customers lined up in China.
If Russia wants to harm its own commercial interests to further Putin's agenda, that's not really our problem, its their problem. Boeing can close its facility in Moscow if that's what Putin wants. They can stop exports to the US, I really wish them good luck sanctioning themselves like that. We will find other sources of titanium and Russia can sell to the Chinese, I hear they pay good money LOL
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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The rebels boarded the buses two DAYS AFTER the gas attack. It was how they convinced them to leave their homes behind, better to live in Idlib than die of gas. Facts do matter when the stakes are this high.
You have to read sentences from left to right and top to bottom. They are connected thoughts and indicate a sequence of events as well as supporting facts and a conclusion. Go back to school if you're not still in school.
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:33 PM
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Today the OPCW said that Russia/Syria is denying access to the gas attack site. Hmmm I wonder why?
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Old 04-16-2018, 06:35 PM
 
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Amazing how all targets were destroyed and no proof of missiles being shot down? You'd think they could find something... A museum exhibit taking down AGM-158, that is pretty cool. Especially since it was dark and they don't have a radar signature, it must have used Rasputin magic to lock on.
Do you know anything? A radar guided missile has all it needs to see by. You just can't see in the spectrum it uses. I'll pass on explaining the physics of light to you.
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Old 04-16-2018, 06:43 PM
 
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Today the OPCW said that Russia/Syria is denying access to the gas attack site. Hmmm I wonder why?
The teams arrived the same day that the missile attack struck endangering the lives of the OPCW team. They had to hunker down and the rebels have upped the number of VBIEDs roaming the countryside. The Syrians are afraid US sponsored terrorists got orders from the US to take them out. Whar better place to do it than the site?
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Old 04-17-2018, 07:21 AM
 
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The teams arrived the same day that the missile attack struck endangering the lives of the OPCW team. They had to hunker down and the rebels have upped the number of VBIEDs roaming the countryside. The Syrians are afraid US sponsored terrorists got orders from the US to take them out. Whar better place to do it than the site?
They were going after the airports to stop the Syrian government's coming advance on Idlib and Daraa. It's being reported in the Israeli news. They're not happy at all and trying to find ways to widen the war.

As I've stated before, take any detailed missile counts and shoot down numbers with a lot of skepticism since the details of the strikes were hashed out between the two sides repeatedly in the days preceding the airstrike.

Both parties were talking beyond the normal deconfliction mechanisms
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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Something on the Pantsir S1. It's Sputnik but it's factual in nature, look it up on Janes or Wiki. Pretty cool system can work as a regimental unit all together or as a single unit and it's said even unmanned in automatic mode.

https://sputniknews.com/military/201...sir-top-facts/
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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They were going after the airports to stop the Syrian government's coming advance on Idlib and Daraa. It's being reported in the Israeli news. They're not happy at all and trying to find ways to widen the war.

As I've stated before, take any detailed missile counts and shoot down numbers with a lot of skepticism since the details of the strikes were hashed out between the two sides repeatedly in the days preceding the airstrike.

Both parties were talking beyond the normal deconfliction mechanisms
The link doesn't work. Anyway there's also the factor of electronic counter measures. Some of those missiles were undoubtedly spoofed using various means. There appears to be little known about Russian ECM systems.
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Old 04-17-2018, 11:48 AM
 
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The link doesn't work. Anyway there's also the factor of electronic counter measures. Some of those missiles were undoubtedly spoofed using various means. There appears to be little known about Russian ECM systems.
I don't have a problem with it. The Fox interview from last week is also on Youtube. Normal deconfliction implies the flight plans are known to both parties. They know what aircraft is approaching, and the planners know the missiles and the vulnerabilities.
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