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If the Quebecois feel strongly enough about who they are to seriously contemplate secession from Canada, as they've done in the past, I'd say it's reasonable evidence that they identify as French.
They can 'identify' what they like, fact is though they're NOT French:-
So they carry a little blue book (or some years--a red book) stating their citizenship as Canadian. That says nothing about their ethnic identity. Legally, in international law, they're one of Canada's ethnic minorities.
Have you discussed your beliefs with any Quebecois?
If the Quebecois feel strongly enough about who they are to seriously contemplate secession from Canada, as they've done in the past, I'd say it's reasonable evidence that they identify as French.
There are over 1 million French-speaking Canadians outside of Quebec, who don't identify as Quebecois, who have zero interest in Quebec separatism. So what are the rest of the French Canadians? Chopped liver? Nope, they are Acadians, franco-Ontariens, Franco-Manitobans, Fransaskois, also there are some Metis and Indigenous francophones...
I can't get over outsiders trying to serve up a lecture on other countries' domestic affairs when they aren't informed. Seriously? France hasn't had a thing to do with francophones in Canadian territory since the mid-1700s. They've been severed from the Olde Country since before American Independence was declared.
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So they carry a little blue book (or some years--a red book) stating their citizenship as Canadian. That says nothing about their ethnic identity. Legally, in international law, they're one of Canada's ethnic minorities.
Have you discussed your beliefs with any Quebecois?
Francophone Canadians come from more ethnicities than Quebecois. Some are Black, some are immigrants from Africa, Haiti, Southeast Asia, etc., some are Indigenous.
There are over 1 million French-speaking Canadians outside of Quebec, who don't identify as Quebecois, who have zero interest in Quebec separatism. So what are the rest of the French Canadians? Chopped liver? Nope, they are Acadians, franco-Ontariens, Franco-Manitobans, Fransaskois, also there are some Metis and Indigenous francophones...
I can't get over outsiders trying to serve up a lecture on other countries' domestic affairs when they aren't informed. Seriously? France hasn't had a thing to do with francophones in Canadian territory since the mid-1700s. They've been severed from the Olde Country since before American Independence was declared.
Limiting my example to the Quebecois was for simplicity's sake. I briefly considered including the Acadians and others (a few pages back) but decided against it. How may example do we need to make one basic point? . But if you'd like to broaden the discussion, be my guest.
Francophone Canadians come from more ethnicities than Quebecois. Some are Black, some are immigrants from Africa, Haiti, Southeast Asia, etc., some are Indigenous.
Cripes.
So? It only takes on example to make the point. (See above post.) But they're a good example, because they have a strong enough ethnic identity, that they raised the topic of secession. That demonstrates they have strong feelings about who they are. That's why I chose them as an example. (I explained this earlier in the conversation.)
So they carry a little blue book (or some years--a red book) stating their citizenship as Canadian. That says nothing about their ethnic identity. Legally, in international law, they're one of Canada's ethnic minorities.
Have you discussed your beliefs with any Quebecois?
There isn't a French ethnicity! French people (people with French passports born and raised in France) are made up of people with MANY different ethnicities! They can 'claim' what they like but Canadians are NOT French, they have nothing to do with France, they are as French as I am!
Most French-speaking Canadians have predominantly French ancestry from France but it's been a long time for us and we don't really identify as "French" though Anglo-Canadians often do erroneously or simplistically refer to us as "French".
There isn't a French ethnicity! French people (people with French passports born and raised in France) are made up of people with MANY different ethnicities! They can 'claim' what they like but Canadians are NOT French, they have nothing to do with France, they are as French as I am!
Yes you are right there is no French ethnicity. They are a mix of people, mostly mixed with other European populations, and a minority from peoples especially from French colonial empires of North Africa. A person that identifies as French is due to their culture. The only thing French speaking Quebecs have in common with France is the language is very much alike, but Quebec has for over 250 years seperated from France and little in common with France.
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French people (people with French passports born and raised in France) are made up of people with MANY different ethnicities! They can 'claim' what they like but Canadians are NOT French, they have nothing to do with France, they are as French as I am!