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Russian nazi deniers of Ukrainian famine forget to mention a few things. In parallel with starving of Ukrainian peasants Stalin regime conducted massive extermination campaign on Ukrainian educated classes, especially writers, artists, anybody who was shaping up an authentic Ukrainian culture at the time. Extermination rates matched and exceeded those of holocaust. Being a ukrainian writer under Stalin was way more deadly than being a Jew under german occupation. Subjugation of peasantry, extermination of the educated classes. That's how ethnocide works. At the time of famine in 1933 all the rich peasants employing other peasants "kulaks" were non existent. Soviets exterminated those prior 1933. The famine targeted rank&file peasants. Also Russian nazis fail to mention that Stalin moved large numbers of the ethic Russian peasants to occupy homes of the freshly starved Ukrainians in the hard hit areas of the Eastern Ukraine. Apparently hunger did not affect peasantry the same across ussr.
To insult the victims of famine, to make lame jokes and insulting words for the victims and famine became national Russian sport. That was my first real life exposure to the supreme "russian spirituality". Russia is a nation of smug psychopaths especially on anything Ukraine. For some reason Ukrainian famine triggers russian nazis and they expose their sub human essence.
We understand that the Russians are not killing Ukrainians because Putin ordered them to. On the contrary, Putin ordered the killing of Ukrainians because the Russians want him to. This is their request. They hate us, our country and the very fact of our existence.
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We understand that the Russians are not killing Ukrainians because Putin ordered them to. On the contrary, Putin ordered the killing of Ukrainians because the Russians want him to. This is their request. They hate us, our country and the very fact of our existence.
From the left leaning Washington Post - it must have killed them to report this!
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Increasingly, Ukrainians are confronting an uncomfortable truth: The military’s understandable impulse to defend against Russian attacks could be putting civilians in the crosshairs. Virtually every neighborhood in most cities has become militarized, some more than others, making them potential targets for Russian forces trying to take out Ukrainian defenses.
“I am very reluctant to suggest that Ukraine is responsible for civilian casualties, because Ukraine is fighting to defend its country from an aggressor,” said William Schabas, an international law professor at Middlesex University in London. “But to the extent that Ukraine brings the battlefield to the civilian neighborhoods, it increases the danger to civilians.”
Ukraine’s cities — and civilian areas — have become the crucible of the war, where an intense struggle is unfolding between Russians who want to seize or control these areas and Ukrainians defiantly resisting. That has transformed the conflict into a largely urban war, forged more by aerial weaponry and bombardments than traditional street-by-street fighting in many areas. With Russian forces targeting cities, the Ukrainians have responded by fortifying civilian areas to defend Kyiv, deploying air defense systems, heavy weaponry, soldiers and volunteers to patrol enclaves. Civilian casualties are mounting.
There’s no doubt that Russian forces are behind the most horrific acts of the war as it continues into a second month. They have struck schools, clinics, ambulances, shopping centers, electric and water facilities, and passenger cars, among numerous indiscriminate attacks on civilians, according to human rights activists. In the southern city of Mariupol, a suspected Russian airstrike killed many people taking refuge inside a theater. It was clearly marked, with the Russian word for “children” in huge letters visible from the sky. Days earlier, a maternity hospital was hit.
But Ukraine’s strategy of placing heavy military equipment and other fortifications in civilian zones could weaken Western and Ukrainian efforts to hold Russia legally culpable for possible war crimes, said human rights activists and international humanitarian law experts. Last week, the Biden administration formally declared that Moscow has committed crimes against humanity.
“If there is military equipment there and [the Russians] are saying we are launching at this military equipment, it undermines an assertion that they are attacking intentionally civilian objects and civilians,” said Richard Weir, a researcher in Human Rights Watch’s crisis and conflict division, who is working in Ukraine.
Over the past month, Washington Post journalists have witnessed Ukrainian antitank rockets, antiaircraft guns and armored personnel carriers placed near apartment buildings. In one vacant lot, Post journalists spotted a truck carrying a Grad multiple rocket launcher. Checkpoints with armed men, barricades of sandbags and tires, and boxes of molotov cocktails are ubiquitous on city highways and residential streets. The sound of outgoing rockets and artillery can be heard constantly in Kyiv, the capital, the squiggly white trails of missiles visible in the sky.
. . . Down to . . .
But the line between what constitutes a war crime becomes more blurred if residential neighborhoods are militarized and become battlefields where civilian deaths are inevitable.
“Ukraine cannot use civilian neighborhoods as ‘human shields,’” said Schabas.
. . .down to . .
When asked whether she worried about having military weaponry and fighters so close to where she lives, she replied after a long pause: “I don’t know what to say. We are just hoping that everything will be all right and this will end soon.”
Like most residents interviewed, she expressed stoicism and loyalty to Ukraine’s military forces. She said she doesn’t like how the capital has been altered into a fortresslike military zone, but she understands. It was worth hearing the sound of outgoing rockets or living within sight of heavy guns to prevent the Russians from entering the capital, she said.
My cousin called my relatives in Poland. The Poles setting up for a war with Russia.
There is total medial blackout on the USA troop build up in Poland. We don't know if there is 100,000 or 250,000 USA troops in Poland preparing to attack Russia.
The lies the Western government are telling their citizens.
Let me understand:
Poland is concerned about Russia attacking them
You have no idea how many troops the US has in Poland (or probably elsewhere)
You conclude that the Western governments are lying to their citizens as a result.
I really struggle to draw a connection between the facts and your assertions, and that is being kind.
The left leaning punditry is saturated with Russian shills, sleepers and simply useful idiots. So? The Russians activated one shill or useful idiot who wrote a bunch of unsubstantiated bs never mind tonnes of videos showing Russian strikes on 100% civilian targets with no military value or presence, as well as Russians military vehicles hidden among residential buildings. Still a prepaid pundit did not explain why the Russians hinder the efforts to evacuate civilians. Even that little spineless boy Macron could not convince the butcher Vlad to let the civilians out Mariupol. I bet the Russians have a lame excuse for that too, and there is a pre paid sleeper pundit who will use WP etc. to give an air of legitimacy to whatever bs the Russians will come up with.
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Since EveryLady already dressed down this silly misinformation post of yours so well (interesting edits you made, intentionally omitting the parts that didn't support your point) in the other thread, I figured I'd link her reply here for everyone's convenience:
You have no idea how many troops the US has in Poland (or probably elsewhere)
You conclude that the Western governments are lying to their citizens as a result.
I really struggle to draw a connection between the facts and your assertions, and that is being kind.
As I posted, George W. Bush lied about his intensions when he invaded Iraq. Obama lied about our involvement in Syria. The Military lied to us about the progress made in Afghanistan.
You tell me when our government is telling the truth.
There is total medial blackout on the USA troop build up in Poland. We don't know if there is 100,000 or 250,000 USA troops in Poland preparing to attack Russia.
You can understand the need for that, right? Why would the US/NATO want to tip off the adversary as to what they're doing and where they have troops located?
OTOH, I have seen articles lately, about US servicemen mobilizing to be sent to NATO's eastern front. Specific numbers weren't given, but they were articles about the troop buildup out there and how our own forces are involved. So I wouldn't call it a "total" blackout.
Since EveryLady already dressed down this silly misinformation post of yours so well (interesting edits you made, intentionally omitting the parts that didn't support your point) in the other thread, I figured I'd link her reply here for everyone's convenience:
I really didn't see EveryLady's response. Thanks for the heads up!
As the article states: The Ukraine put military equipment next to and above residential areas. Ukraine gave Russia a reason to destroy the residential areas. The article also states that it will be hard to conflict Russia of war crimes because of Ukraine's weapon placement.
The UN - don't make me laugh!
1. No war crimes for the USA for using napalm in Vietnam - children are still born with birth defeats from it.
2. No war crimes for the USA when 500,000 children died because the USA bombed water sanitization facilities and blocked penicillin.
3. No war crimes for the USA for Iraq, Syria, or Afghanistan.
4. No war crimes for Assad in Syria. How many times did the newspaper say Assad would be charged?
5. No war crimes for Saudi Arabia or USA ships blocking the ports of Yemen during a famine.
6. No war crimes for Israel using white phosphorus.
7. No war crimes for: "more than a decade, when analysts described the strategy utilized by Israel against Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip, they've used a metaphor: With their displays of overwhelming military strength, Israeli forces were “mowing the grass".
8. If the Yemen War isn't war crimes, what is?
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Members narrowly voted to reject a resolution led by the Netherlands to give the independent investigators another two years to monitor atrocities in Yemen's conflict.
It marked the first time in the council's 15-year history that a resolution was defeated.
The independent investigators have said in the past that potential war crimes have been committed by all sides in the seven-year conflict that has pitted a Saudi-led coalition against Iran-allied Houthi rebels.
More than 100,000 people have been killed and 4 million have been displaced, activist groups say.
War crimes convictions: Read the whole thing yourself. It's never the wealthy countries, but the smallest countries which are charged. The Iraq/Libya charges came after the USA invaded (politically motivated?) https://www.cfr.org/timeline/leaders-facing-justice
You can understand the need for that, right? Why would the US/NATO want to tip off the adversary as to what they're doing and where they have troops located?
OTOH, I have seen articles lately, about US servicemen mobilizing to be sent to NATO's eastern front. Specific numbers weren't given, but they were articles about the troop buildup out there and how our own forces are involved. So I wouldn't call it a "total" blackout.
Ruth, previously the USA allowed newspaper reporters to be embedded with the troops. Now the news agency has little information to go on which is a change in USA policy.
I don't know if its because the reporters had video on the 13 servicemen killed during the Afghanistan withdrawal and Biden doesn't want a repeat or what the story is?
It's a definite change of policy. I found, but haven't read all of these links:
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