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Old 10-29-2008, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
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That is it, I have changed my mind, he can save us, I am voting for Obama!!

YES WE CAN!!
I feel same way after watching, it was very moving and brought togetherness.

 
Old 10-29-2008, 08:14 PM
 
Location: DC area
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With that being said, I request from a moderator, if there is one in this forum, to close this thread..... not worth having it open if the topic has been reduced to "accept that" because intellegent conversation can't keep to the topic.

If there is a mod, please close the thread.
Without meaning to be offensive, it is a discussion thread on a forum and unless you are on a forum that mandates absolutely staying on topic, the dialogue almost always veers hinder and yon. That is simply the course of discussions.
 
Old 10-29-2008, 08:14 PM
 
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Don't you understand I don't like or trust him. He reminds me of 9/11 all over again, and you really had to live in the NY area to feel that, I did. I had friends that never made it home that night.

Diane G

You don't have to tell me.... I was there... on Chambers St. Day is forever etched in my memory. And there were people in my life that were lost as well.

And looking at the outcome of America since 9/11... Obama is a breath of fresh air.
 
Old 10-29-2008, 08:14 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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With that being said, I request from a moderator, if there is one in this forum, to close this thread..... not worth having it open if the topic has been reduced to "accept that" because intellegent conversation can't keep to the topic.

If there is a mod, please close the thread.
Now you know why I start so few threads here. lol
 
Old 10-29-2008, 08:14 PM
 
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He is all about the American people! I fell apart when he spoke about his mother dying of cancer. He said that life is so short and he realized that it's important to seize the moment and stop complaining about what you don't like and do something to fix it instead, and that is why he was running for President. I mean I just broke down, because so many people attack him for attempting to become president after only being a senator for a short period of time, when he truly has something to offer the American people. He genuinely cares and has a compassionate cause!

I have never seen a McCain commercial like that, really getting into pocket book issues! I mean Obama gets it. It's as if he put his foot down and said ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

This post represents why our country is going down the tubes.
 
Old 10-29-2008, 08:16 PM
 
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This post represents why our country is going down the tubes.
Yeah. Compassion and knowledge: terrible combination, will send our country down the tubes. McCain and Palin's message of fear and ignorance will surely serve us better.
 
Old 10-29-2008, 08:17 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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This is exactly what I take issue with when it comes to Christianity. Take the issue of homosexuality and Christians will point to certain verses and say there is no room for interpretation. The condemnation by God is exact, etc.

But then when it comes to issues like judging (and Matthew 7:1), people will say oh we need to look at context, the deeper meaning, the meaning of the word itself that was used pre-translation and on and on it goes because Jesus really didn't mean that we shouldn't be judging he meant... "insert whatever convenient argument needed to support a position here". Bah.
Judging isn't the same as condemning. You can judge a behavior, an idea, a staement, an action, etc., as wrong and not necessarily condemn the person for it.
 
Old 10-29-2008, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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This post represents why our country is going down the tubes.

Interesting. The Nation is going down the tubes BECAUSE a citizen believes a politician understands the plight of the citizens and inspires them to believe it doesn't have to be that way.
 
Old 10-29-2008, 08:19 PM
 
Location: DC area
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This post represents why our country is going down the tubes.
Is this really what the Republican party has come to? A cynism so bad that any hope represents the downfall of America?

Yesterday I was reading an article where a woman at an auction bought the foreclosing house of a stranger who she met at the auction then turned around and gave the house back to her - all on her own; the woman didn't know she was doing it. When I read that some of my faith in the American people was restored. The better angels of our nature seem to be intact regardless of all we've been through.

But you on the other hand seem to be indicating the opposite.

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Judging isn't the same as condemning. You can judge a behavior, an idea, a staement, an action, etc., as wrong and not necessarily condemn the person for it.
How many people are able to seperate the two? Very few that I've ever met or come across.
 
Old 10-29-2008, 08:19 PM
 
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With that being said, I request from a moderator, if there is one in this forum, to close this thread..... not worth having it open if the topic has been reduced to "accept that" because intellegent conversation can't keep to the topic.

If there is a mod, please close the thread.
It's a shame to allow the negitive people ruin it all. I know it's hard to ignore them sometimes,but look at all the Obama camp has to endure from these people!! For God's sake,threatening his very LIFE!! Can you imagine what nerves of steel it must take to go out & do what he does knowing there are such sick,hate-filled people out there? Those on this forum are just a shadow of what he has to deal with.
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