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Old 09-25-2008, 11:52 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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NewtoCA -

You are dreamin' if you think the Clintons will back McCain.
McCain IS well-liked (by MANY Democratic politicians), but this is an election and the Clintons will back their party - especially if they want a political future.

Ken
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:03 AM
 
Location: TwilightZone
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so does that mean many republicans are selfish idiots?
Well said
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:03 AM
 
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NewtoCA -

You are dreamin' if you think the Clintons will back McCain.
McCain IS well-liked (by MANY Democratic politicians), but this is an election and the Clintons will back their party - especially if they want a political future.

Ken
i dont know about that, so that one independent democrat guys political career is done? i forget his name but he was at the republican convention.

i thought he did it(endorsed mccain) because he wasnt picked as VP but who knows.
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:05 AM
 
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It's obvious that the Clintons are not that crazy about Obama, they have endorsed him but only because they want to support their party. Deep down I wouldn't be surprised if either Bill or Hillary vote for McCain, I wouldn't blame them either.
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:05 AM
 
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Remember, it is rumored that McCain actually spoke with Clinton about being his running mate. It is rumored she gave it a lot of thought, but then declined based on her partys overall best interest. Hillary and McCain are not as far apart politically as most people think. Hillary is rather conservative for a 2008 democrat.
well any political party can be conservative and liberal. democrats were once conservative pre 60's
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:21 AM
 
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Default Hillary and McCain work well together.

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Remember, it is rumored that McCain actually spoke with Clinton about being his running mate. It is rumored she gave it a lot of thought, but then declined based on her partys overall best interest. Hillary and McCain are not as far apart politically as most people think. Hillary is rather conservative for a 2008 democrat.
And McCain is rather Liberal for a 2008 Republican. Hillary and McCain work well together.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:58 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Introducing John McCain at the Clinton Global Initiative in Manhattan, Bill Clinton doesn't mention that he's endorsed another candidate.

"When most people in his party were thinking that global warming was overstated and maybe even a myth designed to help people like me who love solar and wind get into it, he decided to look into it," Clinton said, recalling McCain's and Hillary Clinton's trips to the Arctic.

“The point I want to make is there aren’t any votes on this in Arizona,” Clinton said. “He just wanted to know. That’s what we want from everybody. John McCain wants to know and I am profoundly grateful to him for coming here today.”



Ben Smith's Blog: Bill's welcome - Politico.com
Yes, the pity support is starting to come in for McCain as he flames out. In a few weeks, he will be a has-been. Good to see.

Poor old fellow.
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Old 09-26-2008, 08:22 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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i dont know about that, so that one independent democrat guys political career is done? i forget his name but he was at the republican convention.

i thought he did it(endorsed mccain) because he wasnt picked as VP but who knows.
Yup.
Much as I personally like and respect Lieberman, his career is over - unless McCain wins and appoints him to a cabinet position or some such.

He will certainly NOT be re-elected Senator.

Ken
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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NewtoCA -

You are dreamin' if you think the Clintons will back McCain.
McCain IS well-liked (by MANY Democratic politicians), but this is an election and the Clintons will back their party - especially if they want a political future.

Ken
Didn't say they would back McCain. However, they can campaign in a way that leaves them rather neutral in the election.

Based upon actions such as this, and Bill's lack of specific support for Obama as highlighted by Chris Rock when both were on the David Letterman Show, can give some "on the fence" Clinton supporters the sense that switching to McCain isn't really that far fetched.

It is all about the former supporters of Hillary, and things such as this interaction between Bill Clinton and John McCain are fairly significant.

Here is another example of a former high profile Hillary supporter who switched to McCain, adding to the "signals" that this is really quite acceptable:

As Barack Obama and John McCain battle for the Hispanic vote, a leading Latino backer of Hillary Clinton is crossing party lines to support the Republican presidential nominee.

In an interview Thursday, Miguel D. Lausell, a Puerto Rican businessman and longtime Democratic activist and fund-raiser, came out for Sen. McCain. While he said he doesn't agree with all the policy positions of the Republican candidate and his running mate, Sarah Palin, Mr. Lausell added: "I find McCain to be a sound person and a man with a track record. I know where he is coming from." Mr. Lausell had been a major backer of Bill Clinton and served as a senior political adviser to Sen. Clinton's unsuccessful bid this year for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Mr. Lausell said that as a "lifelong Democrat," this is the first time he has supported a Republican presidential candidate. A Harvard Law School graduate, Mr. Lausell's business career has included a stint as chief executive of the Puerto Rico Telephone Co. and chairman of PonceBank, a large Puerto Rican financial institution. Mr. Lausell once had a position with the Democratic National Committee and served on a national finance board for Al Gore's unsuccessful 2000 presidential run. In 2004, he helped start a nonprofit aimed at boosting Latino turnout for Democrats.


McCain Wins Endorsement of Democrat - WSJ.com


Adding this to what Bill Clinton stated, and the door for former Hillary supporters to switch to McCain opens wider.
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