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Old 09-17-2008, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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what makes you say that the poll "uses an 8-10% weighted to a democrat"?
No point in asking. She really just makes it up as she goes along
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:11 PM
 
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This election will be either a toss up (ala 2000) or an overwhelming Obama win. My guess is it will be very close. In no event do I see a mandate win by McCain.
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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what makes you say that the poll "uses an 8-10% weighted to a democrat"?
Can you read? Click the link, page 16.

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No point in asking. She really just makes it up as she goes along
I ASSume, incorrectly, that people can use their brains and actually read the poll. Try it.
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:33 PM
 
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Can you read? Click the link, page 16.



I ASSume, incorrectly, that people can use their brains and actually read the poll. Try it.
I did, didn't see anywhere on page 16 where it says "poll uses an 8-10% weighted to a democrat"

can you quote that sentence pls?
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:36 PM
 
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McCain and Palin lies and her poor interview have taken a toll.
ITA. McLies/PlainLies illusions are wearing thin and the American people beginning to see through them.
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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can you quote that sentence pls?
Good lord, open your eyes and read.

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Total RVs
27 31 Republican
35 37 Democrat
31 29 Independent
4 1 No party/Not interested in politics (VOL.)
1 * Other party (VOL.)
2 2 Don't know
100 100
39 44 Total Republican/Lean Republican
49 49 Total Democrat/Lean Democrat
%'s
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:58 PM
 
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Good lord, open your eyes and read.

Total RVs
27 31 Republican
35 37 Democrat
31 29 Independent
4 1 No party/Not interested in politics (VOL.)
1 * Other party (VOL.)
2 2 Don't know
100 100
39 44 Total Republican/Lean Republican
49 49 Total Democrat/Lean Democrat

%'s
2 things to consider
1) what you refer to is on page 15 & not on page 16...

Now thats out of the way..

2) All the #s you are referring to mean that of every 100 targets polled 27 were leaning Republicans and 35 were leaning democrats. Pls explain how that translates into your statement saying "poll uses an 8-10% weighted to a democrat" or perhaps kindly ellaborate on what you mean by the above quoted!

Also apologise in advance if my questions are frustrating you so, am just trying to have a decent conversation here & I assure you I am reading with my EYES OPEN, don't know any other way
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Good lord, open your eyes and read.



%'s
You have no idea what a weighted poll is do you?
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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2) All the #s you are referring to mean that of every 100 targets polled 27 were leaning Republicans and 35 were leaning democrats. Pls explain how that translates into your statement saying "poll uses an 8-10% weighted to a democrat" or perhaps kindly ellaborate on what you mean by the above quoted!
Those are percentages, not numbers of respondents. Notice the first column - adds up to 100%, same with the second column. The percentage of of dems to rep 35 to 27% - 8% point gap. WITH LEANERS 10% point gap. Who knew this could be so difficult?

That means W/O leaners, 8% MORE dems were polled, W/Leaners 10% MORE dems were polled.

Rasmussen has 5.7% more dems in it's polls. Last month that was closer to 9%, and earlier this year it was almost 11%, but before the GOP conv, the GOP gained 2% on the dems, after the convention, they have gained even more.

Gallup I believe weights it's polls 9% more dems than rep.
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Old 09-17-2008, 05:32 PM
 
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2 things to consider again......... actually 3 now; pls humor me - appreciate in advance


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Those are percentages, not numbers of respondents. Notice the first column - adds up to 100%, same with the second column. The percentage of of dems to rep 35 to 27% - 8% point gap. WITH LEANERS 10% point gap. Who knew this could be so difficult?


1) Yes Ma'am I do understand that these are %ages - Pls read what I wrote "OF every 100 targets polled 27 were leaning Republicans and 35 were leaning democrats. ---- Which translates into %ages; Pls let me know if I need to explain more on this one....

Now that's out of the way...

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That means W/O leaners, 8% MORE dems were polled, W/Leaners 10% MORE dems were polled.
2) NO it doesn't mean that more democrats were polled, all it means is of the people polled there were more who were leaning democrat.

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Rasmussen has 5.7% more dems in it's polls. Last month that was closer to 9%, and earlier this year it was almost 11%, but before the GOP conv, the GOP gained 2% on the dems, after the convention, they have gained even more.

Gallup I believe weights it's polls 9% more dems than rep.
3) Are you insinuating that these polls deliberately go out and target one of the demographics more than the others? I wouldn't want to assume you think so.... pls confirm

Thanks for bearing with me

Still reading with my EYES OPEN, though have to say won't be for long for either

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