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Old 09-11-2008, 06:49 AM
 
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You're grasping at straws, all the above is important to Alaska's economy. You don't think both Maryland and Virginia don't get millions for crab and oyster study? Happens in ALL states for their interest. Bidens Delaware gets millions for horseshoe crab studies which aren't even eatable or harvested for food!
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There are earmarks and there is pork barrel. The "R" months are rapidly approaching and I'm ready for some hard to find fresh oysters or as they say on the islands, "arsters". You know as well as I, healthy fisheries are much more important to many states economies than 1 million dollars to a hospital that the manly woman worked at. Her pay raise ate up much of that pork barrel alone. Your turn.
So this means that you are in favor of government intervention in running industries?
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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So this means that you are in favor of government intervention in running industries?
As long as Sarah Stalin can get your arsters, comrade.

See, a practical statist has the privilege of cherrypicking their earmarks.
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:11 AM
 
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You seem to be entirely missing the point! Palin is a GOVERNOR and thus has no ability to vote on any earmarks. Only Congress has that ability and guess who brought almost $1B (yes billion with a B) back to his state in less than one full term in the Senate --Obama. That is what we should be looking at.
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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In the first place only a senator or a congressman can ask for federal earmarks. A governor can ask for earmarks from their own state.
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Sort of like how Capone never really killed anyone, just had the hired help do it.

So what you're implying, other than income tax evasion, Capone was an innocent man.
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:40 AM
 
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Sort of like how Capone never really killed anyone, just had the hired help do it.

So what you're implying, other than income tax evasion, Capone was an innocent man.
Then how do you justify Obama's $1B in earmarks. The fact is that under the present system this is the way that a state gets back some of the tax money that is sent in from their state. And, yes, it is the job of the Governor to send in a prioritized list of their states needs. My main objection is to earmarks that are tacked on at the last minute to bills that will gain easy passage. And the fact that the Dems are being disingenuous when they overlook Obama's earmarks to focus on those of a Governor.
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Then how do you justify Obama's $1B in earmarks. The fact is that under the present system this is the way that a state gets back some of the tax money that is sent in from their state. And, yes, it is the job of the Governor to send in a prioritized list of their states needs. My main objection is to earmarks that are tacked on at the last minute to bills that will gain easy passage. And the fact that the Dems are being disingenuous when they overlook Obama's earmarks to focus on those of a Governor.
I don't justify Obama's earmarks since I don't support him. I find the advertisements about the McBush/Stalin's "change" as disingenuous as Obama's, especially when it comes to cronyism.

Earmarks are earmarks. Alaska has plenty of money for her "research".
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Then how do you justify Obama's $1B in earmarks. The fact is that under the present system this is the way that a state gets back some of the tax money that is sent in from their state. And, yes, it is the job of the Governor to send in a prioritized list of their states needs. My main objection is to earmarks that are tacked on at the last minute to bills that will gain easy passage. And the fact that the Dems are being disingenuous when they overlook Obama's earmarks to focus on those of a Governor.
The thing is I don't believe that Obama is running on an anti-earmark platform so his earmarks are not really in question. You can't say that you are against earmarks but in reality you embrace them. The point is that Alaska has received more earmarks per person then any other state and Palin was a part of that process. She only cut her earmark requests when Bush stated that he wanted to cut down the amount of earmarks that were being handed out. At that time, it was part of the party line to distance yourself from earmarks but she did not eliminate all of the requests coming from her office. From my understanding, Obama stated that the way earmarks are handed out needs to be examined not eliminated. Too me that is a difference and that is why Palin's record on earmarks are being examined, not that she got them but her public statements indicating that she is against them while still requesting them.
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Eastern Shore
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well lets put it this way.. large amounts of water are needed for nuclear facilities.. and IDAHO has it.. in fact.. federal dollars were not available to build nuclear power plants in this state.. SO.. now a french company is planning to build them and they will be privately owned foreign nuclear power plants... 2 of them...Not to mention the Nuclear Research facility in idaho is one of like 3 in the entire nation... and guess who's going to benefit most from it now... that's right that foreign french company making plans to partner with the facility..
so much for energy independence right?
but lets give all the money to palin and alaska for that crab...
the rivers of many inland states support the spawning of salmon.. and without that.. you'd have no fishing industry
Who said give ALL the money to her? Alaska feeds millions EVERYDAY worldwide, that's a natural resource that has no equal. French plant? Sounds like they submitted the lowest bid (good luck) and biologically confused Larry Craig may have been involved and congress blew him off? (no pun intended) Who knows, maybe someone did a poor job of selling their potential electricity to their neighbors to the west and SW who would be the obvious major consumer.
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Eastern Shore
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Sarah Stalin can't make the claim that she stands for less gov't waste, however.

Define waste, food on yours and my table? I don't eat their product every week but I bet I do every month or more. Some people much much more frequent but don't take MY word for it.


Alaskan pollock (Theragra chalcogramma) is the largest food fish resource in the world. More than 3 million tons of Alaska pollock are caught each year in the North Pacific from Alaska to northern Japan. Alaska pollock catches from U.S. fisheries have been quite consistent at about 1.5 million tons a year, almost all of it from the Bering Sea.
The Alaskan pollock is said to be "the largest remaining source of palatable fish in the world."[1]. However, the biomass of pollock has declined in recent years, perhaps spelling trouble for both the Bering Sea ecosystem and the commercial fishery it supports
Pollock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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