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Old 08-16-2008, 04:00 AM
 
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Which will make it all the more telling when McCain wins the election...if he is the best that the Republicans can put together and the Dems can't even take advantage of that...they are in world of hurt are they not????

Talk is cheap, it is VOTES that count and when it comes down to it I think that McCain will be elected. Not a great choice in my book, but the ONLY choice.
well votes r going for obama now but polls generaly dont matter until the debates.

and to the first statement u said Obama whole campaign is not to attack and seem like the better candidate which worked wonderfully against Hillary but against McCain i dont think it will work he needs to draw attention to McCain a little on how he cheated his wife and his economic statements, and well the entire in the 21st century nations dont invade other nations.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Boise
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McCain and fellow republicans carry their 20th century cold war mentality with them...Military involvement should be a LAST resort.. and not our first... We have to practice what we preach before anyone in the world is going to take us seriously.. just because you have a military that can bully people doesn't make them respect you.. it makes them hate you... and as time goes.. all things change... and there is a very good possibility that we might not always have the biggest and best military in the world.. it is in our best interests to be respected on our words and actions... nobody respects a hypocrite...
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:13 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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McCain and fellow republicans carry their 20th century cold war mentality with them...Military involvement should be a LAST resort.. and not our first... We have to practice what we preach before anyone in the world is going to take us seriously.. just because you have a military that can bully people doesn't make them respect you.. it makes them hate you... and as time goes.. all things change... and there is a very good possibility that we might not always have the biggest and best military in the world.. it is in our best interests to be respected on our words and actions... nobody respects a hypocrite...
Hmmm... I guess Bill Clinton also has a 20th century cold war metality because he sent U.S. troops to more foreign countries than G.W. Bush has.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Boise
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Hmmm... I guess Bill Clinton also has a 20th century cold war metality because he sent U.S. troops to more foreign countries than G.W. Bush has.
its not sending troops thats bad .. its their job and duty... its the missions you send them on....
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:24 AM
 
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Yes, McCain is the most electable Republican.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:24 AM
 
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Hmmm... I guess Bill Clinton also has a 20th century cold war metality because he sent U.S. troops to more foreign countries than G.W. Bush has.
1st off hes not threating 2 take military action against countries with hundreds of nukes. He also didnt invade the countries he lent assistance to the governments which asked for assistance.
It was why we were much loved by the end of his term and then much hated after we invaded iraq

2nd off he sent special forces to other countries huge difference then our occupation force.

Black hawk down all special forces.
Right now r military is very secretive we probley have special forces over 50 countries
same with Clinton

McCain however is stuck on vietnam and the coldwar. He must defeat communist he must win no matter the cost, which has been very heavy economically. He is willing 2 stay in Iraq for 100 years and well he hasnt learned that you cant win wars by force of arms anymore its now politics and foreign relationships which Obama has proven he has much of in Germany
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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its not sending troops thats bad .. its their job and duty... its the missions you send them on....
Then did you approve of Clinton sending troops to Bosnia, Kosovo, Haiti, etc?
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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1st off hes not threating 2 take military action against countries with hundreds of nukes. He also didnt invade the countries he lent assistance to the governments which asked for assistance.
It was why we were much loved by the end of his term and then much hated after we invaded iraq

2nd off he sent special forces to other countries huge difference then our occupation force.

Black hawk down all special forces.
Right now r military is very secretive we probley have special forces over 50 countries
same with Clinton

McCain however is stuck on vietnam and the coldwar. He must defeat communist he must win no matter the cost, which has been very heavy economically. He is willing 2 stay in Iraq for 100 years and well he hasnt learned that you cant win wars by force of arms anymore its now politics and foreign relationships which Obama has proven he has much of in Germany
That's because Clinton was more concerned about his poll ratings than foreign affairs. Uh-oh... I really shouldn't use the word "affair."
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Mr. Irrelevant says Mr. Antique is the most electable amongst the group of retards.

We care because?
Because they are in a dead even race?
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:54 AM
 
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Then did you approve of Clinton sending troops to Bosnia, Kosovo, Haiti, etc?
one never said he approved just didnt send them for a invasion force to take over a country and lied 2 america to do it.

He did it for good moral reasons i think he could sent an assination team to do not 10,000 rangers to take down one guy but ya. He didnt get 4000 american soldiers killed.

most of all HE DIDNT INVADE THOSE COUNTRY'S he took down war criminals and secured sections of citys he did a crappy job at it but at least he got out and didnt lie to the american people about it, or create a situation were now its not only the terriost that hates us but most of the world.

The harm he has caused was min 2 none but your statments he is that bill clinton is a man who in the 20th cen invaded other nations is wrong and not supported

and he got out because he serves the american people not his quest for military action he serves 2 strengthen america and he realized his mistake unlike bush and McCain who wants to 2 stay there for over 100 years if it takes
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