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Old 06-25-2008, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%

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Voter preferences had been fairly evenly divided for the past week, with Obama generally holding a slight advantage of two or three percentage points. This is the first time since Gallup's May 31-June 4 rolling average that Obama does not have at least a slim advantage over McCain. Obama's largest lead to date has been seven points. (To view the complete trend since March 7, 2008, click here.)

Since the changes from Tuesday's results are well within the margin of sampling error, it is unclear at this point if today's results represent a further tightening of the race. The last two individual nights of polling have, however, been more favorable to McCain that what Gallup has shown for most of June. -- Jeff Jones
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:35 PM
 
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Be interesting to see the Obama posters spin this one.. YES WE CAN... I'm sure they'll find some reason to bring in race, sexism, etc to discount the poll.. or of course claim that this poll is a vast right wing conspiracy and all lies, unlike those OTHER polls that show Obama leading by 75 points....
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Does this include the California figures?

Last time I checked, there were ony two McCain voters in the whole state, and they were holed up in a shack in the Sierras, and being kept in sleep deprivation status with music played constantly from unmanned drones circling ovehead 24/7.

"All we a re saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaying
Is give peas a chance..........."
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Rasmussen (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll - broken link) still has Obama up by 6%, RCP average by almost 7%. Anyway I thought you didn't care about polls, liberal bias and all that.

Strange, and extremely hypocritical, to complain about polls and the art of polling itself when it doesn't favor your candidate, yet when you like a poll's results you can't wait to post it.
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Central NJ, USA
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Of course, national polls as a tool are almost utterly useless, since the real action in the Presidential Campaign is within states. How does the race look in, for example, Ohio? If McCain loses in Ohio, he likely will lose several other key "swing" states (like Florida, Iowa...)

I firmly believe that the popular vote is not going to be a landslide, but that the electoral vote (the only one that really counts) is going to be a wipeout.
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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Be interesting to see the Obama posters spin this one.. YES WE CAN... I'm sure they'll find some reason to bring in race, sexism, etc to discount the poll.. or of course claim that this poll is a vast right wing conspiracy and all lies, unlike those OTHER polls that show Obama leading by 75 points....
Polls are for suckers, and that is just the bottom line. I thought everyone knew that by now. This week its one way, next week it will be something else. Lets just wait and see what happens and stop all the speculation and arguments. And I also find it odd that with all these polls I have never been polled. And that is my point. You are not getting anything real with a poll of a few thousand people. So lets just give it a rest and wait for the results in November.
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:07 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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These polls are all useless until after the conventions are over. Then the debates and they start to matter, at least IMO. I remember in 1988, for instance, when Dukakis was ahead of GWB 41 by 18 points in July, or early August. After Labor Day, I think the opposite was true. It's only the end of June. Both candidates will spout their left of center crap in order to appeal to the socialists who have been slowly stultified over the past 60 + years into thinking government > private enterprise.
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:40 PM
 
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Polls are for suckers, and that is just the bottom line. I thought everyone knew that by now. This week its one way, next week it will be something else. Lets just wait and see what happens and stop all the speculation and arguments. And I also find it odd that with all these polls I have never been polled. And that is my point. You are not getting anything real with a poll of a few thousand people. So lets just give it a rest and wait for the results in November.
National polls are for suckers, but polls on a state by state basis, if done on an equal playing ground can be very telling. And I dont mean 50% Democrats/50% Republicans, I mean a % polls that is consistant with the state registration percentages.
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:41 PM
 
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Rasmussen (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll - broken link) still has Obama up by 6%, RCP average by almost 7%. Anyway I thought you didn't care about polls, liberal bias and all that.

Strange, and extremely hypocritical, to complain about polls and the art of polling itself when it doesn't favor your candidate, yet when you like a poll's results you can't wait to post it.
Actually I read and reread the original thread, and all I seen was a link to the news story. Maybe you can point out the part where he "liked the poll results". You made an assumption, but perhapse he isnt happy with the results.
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:54 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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Happy Republicans? You finally have something to be happy about [McCain is tied WoW
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