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Old 06-22-2008, 10:29 PM
 
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I heard some talking head say that the RNC is realizing McCain will certainly lose and will switch him out closer to November, due to health concerns or something similar, for a fresh feeling conservative. This would be done in hopes of stealing the Obama 'freshness' that seems to have a viral effect. Though, I don't see how this could really be an effective strategy it is interesting to play out in my mind how it would effect the election.
No, I think that to accomplish the feeling of 'change' they are going to have LAs young governor be McCains runningmate.
To bad they didn't just cut to the chase and have that guy in the first place.
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney split the conservative vote, so McCain won by default. Had conservatives rallied behind one or the other, McCain would not be the nominee. Unfortunately, most in the Bible belt couldn't see past Romney's Mormon faith and many northern fiscal conservatives didn't like that Huckabee's campaign was centered entirely on religion and moral values at a time when much bigger things are on the nation's mind.

While I think Huckabee is an honorable and moral man, I don't think he grasped the fact this isn't 2004.
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney split the conservative vote, so McCain won by default. Had conservatives rallied behind one or the other, McCain would not be the nominee. Unfortunately, most in the Bible belt couldn't see past Romney's Mormon faith and many northern fiscal conservatives didn't like that Huckabee's campaign was centered entirely on religion and moral values at a time when much bigger things are on the nation's mind.

While I think Huckabee is an honorable and moral man, I don't think he grasped the fact this isn't 2004.
That is a great post. You hit the nail on the head. The big business types wanted Romney and the Bible Belt Evangelicals went with Huck. For the first time they just could not get everybody behind one candidate. McCain really should have been Guliani, he has to thank Guliani for running such an inept campaign in the first half. They are both liberals in conservative clothing who try to play conservative by pretending to be strong on national defense. "9/11" Guliani had it in the bag, he just got too cocky in the early going. So McCain... who midway through was emptying his piggy bank looking for spare change to stay in the race... now finds himself as the Republican nominee 2008.
Simply unbelievable.

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Old 06-23-2008, 12:08 AM
 
Location: At my computador
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How did the republican party end up with John McCain as their nominee?
He appeals to people. I think he has the personality of Huckabee with a record that's respectable... if not perfect.


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I do not know a single republican who is happy with this.
I wonder if that doesn't have a lot to do with so many of us being raised during an era of bitter politics where compromise has been out of style for a very long time.


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They don't like McCain, and will only vote for him to keep Obama out.
I think that's how it should be when voting for president. The president should, IMO, be only slightly to the left/right of center. He's representing the entire country, so it's only natural that he's close to average.

Most people, I believe, have relatively radical views. For instance, the pro-life crowd is just as sick as the pro-abortion crowd: Both want federal control of the act. McCain's republican view of it bothers both because he wants control out of the fed's hands. There's a big chunk of your right wing support.

He compromises on immigration. In an era when it's better to lose fighting rather than win a little compromising, it's only natural that the radicals who'd rather the country be torn apart rather than compromise feel unhappy about McCain... He's a wing of the party that hasn't been seen in a long time. It'll take some time to realize that his way makes sense.

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Seriously, what the hell happened?
Although splitting the vote had an effect, I believe that New Hampshire residents reminded us that he was an option and people came out and voted for character.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:39 PM
 
Location: PA
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Yeah um so anyway did anyone actually vote for mccain in the primaries?
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Albany, GA (Hell's Waiting Room)
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I didn't. I initially supported Duncan Hunter, saw that wouldn't be viable, then went for Huckabee, and here we are. I'll be voting for McCain in the general election because I do not believe Obama to be the best candidate, and because the conduct I've seen from a lot of Obama's supporters turns my stomach. It may be that McCain is the best candidate out there simply because he pisses EVERYBODY off; that is the usual definition of a really good compromise.

Romney is very Presidential-LOOKING, I have to say. Got that Reed Richards thing going on.

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Old 06-24-2008, 02:47 PM
 
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What I hope happens is McCain chooses a young rising Conservative (not neocon as discussed in the other thread) Republican star as VP and he becomes the new icon of the Republican party. Jindal and Pawlenty are the obvious choices but there maybe someone we have yet to discover. The GOP has to get back to the fiscal policies of Ronald Reagan and the foreign policies of Teddy Roosevelt- "Speak softly and carry a big stick" Love that phrase!
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:51 PM
 
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I agree with the doubts on McCain, but good lord look at his opponent. Obama is the worst possible candidate this country has ever seen. His policies are so far left socialism is starting to look conservative. We should all be very very afraid of Obama becoming the next president. Not all change is good.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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I like and respect him as an individual and his service to the country. I didn't vote for him in the primary. There are some things I agree with and some I don't. I would be happy with him as president.

I've said it before; In retrospect, he is the ONLY candidate who can beat either democrat. He WILL pull those indies from the dem, especially after they realize what Obama's tax hikes would do to a struggling economy. McCain's overwhelming foreign policy/military experience will bury Obama. I don't think people will trust a veritable neophyte with the reins as far as the wars go. Most of the polls say they trust McCain more on foreign policy and administering the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

So I can only say McCain was meant to be the nominee because he will beat Obama.

McCain is our savior.
You forgot to mention that you work for his campaign.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:56 PM
 
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You forgot to mention that you work for his campaign.

Liberals and their conspiracies. They know nothing about reality so they play in fantasy land.
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