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Old 06-11-2008, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Realclearpolitics.com does a real good job of putting together a lot of information. The electoral maps are very interesting. Given the Republican gerrymandering, Obama will need a somewhat decisive popular vote margin.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama

RealClearPolitics - Electoral Map

RealClearPolitics - Electoral Map
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Here's another good electoral map:

Election 2008: Presidential, Senate and House Races Updated Daily

And this guy's stuff is always interesting:

The Daily Widget – Wednesday, June 11 – WEA 53.72% 598.90 Obama 308-230 - Democratic Underground
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:29 PM
 
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Realclearpolitics.com does a real good job of putting together a lot of information. The electoral maps are very interesting. Given the Republican gerrymandering, Obama will need a somewhat decisive popular vote margin.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama

RealClearPolitics - Electoral Map

RealClearPolitics - Electoral Map
What has gerrymandering got to do with the general election?

These polls mean nothing, let's wait till november when everyone can cast an actual vote.

I thought Obama was suppose to get a bump after "wrapping up" the nomination.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:41 PM
 
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What has gerrymandering got to do with the general election?

These polls mean nothing, let's wait till november when everyone can cast an actual vote.

I thought Obama was suppose to get a bump after "wrapping up" the nomination.

Gallup.com

PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama continues to hold a lead over John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily tracking -- 48% to 42% in June 8-10 polling of registered voters nationwide.



This marks the third consecutive day that Obama has held a significant lead, as he enjoys a modest boost in support following Hillary Clinton's decision to concede the nomination. Obama's six and seven percentage point advantages over McCain in recent days have been his best to date. Obama has held significant leads over McCain at other points since mid-March (when Gallup first began tracking general election preferences), but for the most part the two candidates have been locked in statistical dead heats. (To view the complete trend since March 7, 2008, click here.). -- Jeff Jones
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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yeah, these polls mean a whole lot! when we decide between hillary clinton and rudy giuliani come november, everyone will see................................what do you mean they aren't in the running? I read a premature poll that had them way ahead!?!?!
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:45 PM
 
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PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama continues to hold a lead over John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily tracking -- 48% to 42% in June 8-10 polling of registered voters nationwide.

This marks the third consecutive day that Obama has held a significant lead, as he enjoys a modest boost in support following Hillary Clinton's decision to concede the nomination. Obama's six and seven percentage point advantages over McCain in recent days have been his best to date. Obama has held significant leads over McCain at other points since mid-March (when Gallup first began tracking general election preferences), but for the most part the two candidates have been locked in statistical dead heats. (To view the complete trend since March 7, 2008, click here.). -- Jeff Jones
Wow.. Three days in a row, that Obama holds a 6 point lead.. 5+ months away from the election, that means about as much as saying Clinton held the lead 6 months before nomination process..
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:45 PM
 
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You call a 4 point lead "pulling ahead"?

One would expect a large bump after he clinched the nomination. So far, it's been a pimple.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:49 PM
 
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What has gerrymandering got to do with the general election?

These polls mean nothing, let's wait till november when everyone can cast an actual vote.

I thought Obama was suppose to get a bump after "wrapping up" the nomination.
You can wait but some of us are number junkies and find this fascinating and intellectually stimulating. If this doesn't rock your boat then find a river that suits you. However this thread was clearly labeled poll so you got here intentionally. What polls do you follow since you joined us?

In case you want a good place to start you might want to use the Gallup tracking tool provided below.

Interactive Graph: Follow the General Election
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:51 PM
 
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Wow.. Three days in a row, that Obama holds a 6 point lead.. 5+ months away from the election, that means about as much as saying Clinton held the lead 6 months before nomination process..
Tell that to Gallup, I am sure they will value the feedback on THEIR commentary.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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What has gerrymandering got to do with the general election?
It has affected the allocation of electoral college votes (a.k.a electoral geography) and has stacked the deck against the Democrats. Remember 2000?

Gerrymandering is a method based on population votes of each state, instead of popular votes and is an easy way for politicians to dictate voter outcomes. This dramatically influences election results because no matter the popular vote, the politician with the most electoral votes wins. A recent example of gerrymandering in the US was the, “2000 US presidential election, where geography was critical in determining the winner”. (8) Gerrymandering in the end was the large deciding factor, “Bush was declared elected with 271 of the 538 votes in the electoral college, but with nearly 540,000 fewer actual popular votes than his Democratic rival, Al Gore.”
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