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Same was said about Bush W. and he won twice. How come? Maybe not everyone agrees with you.
The issues that are not popular For GOP are:
- Illegal immigrants
- Women
The only thing you need to know is that illegals can't vote and legal immigrants are split with how to handle illegals. Most well to do that I talk to want illegals kicked out.
As for women votes, Bush W and Mitt both weren't popular with women. I do know for a long time that most women dislikes GOP but most of them don't waste time voting when they are too busy with their own interests like shopping, beauty, social media. The only females interested in politics and voting are much older ones like 37 and up. I've attended 3 prez elections in a roll and rarely see any young females in the 20-30s. It's always older women but plenty of guys from 25+
Trump is milking the white non-college vote for all it's worth, but to remain competitive, let alone win, he has to do much better with white college grads. White college voters accounted for half of the white non-Hispanic vote in 2012, and Trump's currently running far behind what Mitt received with that group. With Trump receiving about half of the Latino vote in polls that Romney received (14% to 27%), he's on track to do much worse than Romney did with minority voters, and Romney received a paltry 17%. If Trump does as badly with Latinos as he's currently polling, he'll do well to receive double digits of the total minority vote. Given that shellacking among minorities, he needs to strongly win college whites, and there's no indication he's going to do that. Currently, polls indicate he may be the first Republican to lose white college grads since 1952.
He has to make the diploma divide disappear among white voters if he wants to win. The bigger the gap this year between white college and white non-college voters, the less of a chance Trump has.
That depends. There are two parts to this question:
1. Rules
Across the nation, state Republican Party's and the RNC created rules which opened up GOP primaries to unaffiliated voters. In theory, that isn't a bad thing - drawing independents into the party is not a bad thing and it's needed in a general election. The RNC and state parties feared having a grassroots conservative like Newt Gingrich become the 2012 nominee for President. So they changed the rules. But now it's hurting the party. Let's be clear - based on this election cycle, had the GOP kept primaries closed, the nominee this year would likely be either Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio.
Donald Trump appeals to voters who dislike immigrants and who hate globalization. Trump's message has an audience. The open primary process has enabled unaffiliated voters to register Republican and support Trump. Now, some Republicans also voted for Trump, but the conservative base supported Ted Cruz.
If the RNC and state parties change the rules so only Republicans can vote in GOP primaries, the Republican Party will nominate presidential candidates who are actually representative of Republican voters, not a liberal from New York City.
2. Policies
Donald Trump's anti-free market rhetoric has some support with those who have lost manufacturing jobs and those who blame free trade and globalization for the loss of jobs in some locations in some sectors.
Trump's immigration policies have some support from hard-liners on that issue.
The reality is, Republicans generally do best when we have a compelling economic message - one that supports a basic safety net while rejecting more government control of the economy and the welfare state. Republicans do best when we support free markets and fiscal discipline, when we welcome diversity, when we stand up for the pro-life position without attacking the woman who is making the decision as it relates to abortion, and when we stand up for individual liberty.
I also happen to believe the party needs to move on from getting bogged down in the gay marriage debate; ideally, the government shouldn't be involved in the issue of marriage but if it must be, leave it to states.
To answer your question, the Republican Party will continue to be able to win congressional, senatorial, and gubernatorial elections. Why? Outside of the south and to an extent the rocky mountain west, Republicans are generally less socially conservative but just as fiscally conservative. Rob Portman of Ohio is for same-sex marriage, a position that is fine with Ohio Republicans but wouldn't be with Republicans in Mississippi. If Portman decided to run for President, he would have difficulty winning the south and perhaps the rocky mountain west due to this. In a general election, Portman's views are a lot closer to the electorate nationally than Republican voters in Mississippi. So he couldn't get the nomination to then go on and win the general election.
Can the party overcome this? Eventually, yes. Eventually, the younger generation will be more engaged in the political process and in the GOP. Younger Republicans, of which I am one, don't care as much about social issues. But for the time being, the party will have difficulty winning presidential races. Marco Rubio and John Kasich would have defeated Hillary Clinton in a landslide this year. Jeb Bush had a good chance of winning. Ted Cruz could have won not because people love him, but because of how unpopular Hillary Clinton is. But of 330 million people in this country, the GOP nominated the one who can't beat Clinton.
But of 330 million people in this country, the GOP nominated the one who can't beat Clinton.
Then why is he tied with her in a handful of key battleground states and he hasn't even started to campaign yet compared to her million dollar ad campaign that's been running for months?
That depends. There are two parts to this question:
1. Rules
Across the nation, state Republican Party's and the RNC created rules which opened up GOP primaries to unaffiliated voters. In theory, that isn't a bad thing - drawing independents into the party is not a bad thing and it's needed in a general election. The RNC and state parties feared having a grassroots conservative like Newt Gingrich become the 2012 nominee for President. So they changed the rules. But now it's hurting the party. Let's be clear - based on this election cycle, had the GOP kept primaries closed, the nominee this year would likely be either Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio.
Donald Trump appeals to voters who dislike immigrants and who hate globalization. Trump's message has an audience. The open primary process has enabled unaffiliated voters to register Republican and support Trump. Now, some Republicans also voted for Trump, but the conservative base supported Ted Cruz.
If the RNC and state parties change the rules so only Republicans can vote in GOP primaries, the Republican Party will nominate presidential candidates who are actually representative of Republican voters, not a liberal from New York City.
2. Policies
Donald Trump's anti-free market rhetoric has some support with those who have lost manufacturing jobs and those who blame free trade and globalization for the loss of jobs in some locations in some sectors.
Trump's immigration policies have some support from hard-liners on that issue.
The reality is, Republicans generally do best when we have a compelling economic message - one that supports a basic safety net while rejecting more government control of the economy and the welfare state. Republicans do best when we support free markets and fiscal discipline, when we welcome diversity, when we stand up for the pro-life position without attacking the woman who is making the decision as it relates to abortion, and when we stand up for individual liberty.
I also happen to believe the party needs to move on from getting bogged down in the gay marriage debate; ideally, the government shouldn't be involved in the issue of marriage but if it must be, leave it to states.
To answer your question, the Republican Party will continue to be able to win congressional, senatorial, and gubernatorial elections. Why? Outside of the south and to an extent the rocky mountain west, Republicans are generally less socially conservative but just as fiscally conservative. Rob Portman of Ohio is for same-sex marriage, a position that is fine with Ohio Republicans but wouldn't be with Republicans in Mississippi. If Portman decided to run for President, he would have difficulty winning the south and perhaps the rocky mountain west due to this. In a general election, Portman's views are a lot closer to the electorate nationally than Republican voters in Mississippi. So he couldn't get the nomination to then go on and win the general election.
Can the party overcome this? Eventually, yes. Eventually, the younger generation will be more engaged in the political process and in the GOP. Younger Republicans, of which I am one, don't care as much about social issues. But for the time being, the party will have difficulty winning presidential races. Marco Rubio and John Kasich would have defeated Hillary Clinton in a landslide this year. Jeb Bush had a good chance of winning. Ted Cruz could have won not because people love him, but because of how unpopular Hillary Clinton is. But of 330 million people in this country, the GOP nominated the one who can't beat Clinton.
I couldent have said it better
Like you I am also a center-right Millennial but I get really turned off by the GOP's obsession with social conservatism and dog-whistle bashing of minorities. The party needs to make peace with the fact that gay marriage and abortion are legal and that's that.
The party needs to focus on economics, not banning gay marriage and creating deportation forces. We need to offer solutions, we can't just say "no" to everything. We need to have a GOP that can win elections nationwide, not just in Kansas and Alabama.
There will not be a Republican POTUS until one Republican wins the nomination and has a specific stance on two issues. Neutrality on LGBT rights and Abortion; will not favor any federal or state legislation restrictions LGBT rights & making abortion illegal.
Now to sweeten the pot if a Republican stepped up with those issues in addition to: Doing away with the income tax; state based health insurance market; abolishing the death penalty; against eminent domain; Eliminating trade deals and tarrifs on imported goods; flat corporate tax; national sales tax; doing away of the ETIC; Federal welfare reform; ciminal justice reform; ending war on drugs; legalizing marijuana; mental health reform, veteran's care reform; for liveable wages determined by the State; supporter of Federalism and for States to have more power;push for greener more sustainable energy; leas policing on world affairs work more with UN; immigration reform via policies that offer more services to citizens and encourage individuals to become citizens.; doing away of the EEO/Affirmitive Action; doing away with Common Core; against state or federal benefits for Prisoners; doing away with Medicare replacing it with universal healthcare for seniors; for political campaign reform no funds from goverment or corporations to pay for political campaigns; pro Glass-Steagall Act; for privitizing social security and privitizing/doing away with federal government agencies; for putting prisons in state control with federal government oversight.
Two things:
If a "republican" approved and supported any of the aforementioned items on your list, they wouldn't be a republican, much less a conservative.
Why is supporting abortion and LGBT rights the most important thing to society these days? What about taking a stand against racism and stimulating the economy. I would imagine all three of those things would matter to everyone regardless against of political stance. Most people already support abortion and gay rights, we've already made huge strides for those things, but is that all that matters anymore?
If a "republican" approved and supported any of the aforementioned items on your list, they wouldn't be a republican, much less a conservative.
Why is supporting abortion and LGBT rights the most important thing to society these days? What about taking a stand against racism and stimulating the economy. I would imagine all three of those things would matter to everyone regardless against of political stance. Most people already support abortion and gay rights, we've already made huge strides for those things, but is that all that matters anymore?
In my opinion, being a Republican is not really about social conservatism ... it's more about belief in limited government (esp at the Federal level), upholding constitutional rights, and responsible spending. The obsession with social issues (abortion, gay marriage, drugs, etc) only came about with the rise of the "Religious Right"/"Moral Majority" in the 1980s which in itself was an offshoot of the "Southern strategy" of the 1960s and 70s.
I have great respect for those who practice their faith but the reality is that outside of the "Bible Belt" most people under the age of 50 or so don't really care about social issues. Much like Trump's catering to White racial resentment it's not a winning strategy.
Then why is he tied with her in a handful of key battleground states and he hasn't even started to campaign yet compared to her million dollar ad campaign that's been running for months?
Clinton leads Trump by 10 in Colorado, by 7 in Florida, by 3 in Iowa, and by 6 in North Carolina. It's a tie in Ohio and Trump leads Clinton by 2 in Pennsylvania. How is that leading in key battleground states when it's basically a tie in two and she's leading by a lot in the rest?
The problem is the Republican Party, my party, has allowed unaffiliated voters to nominate an angry, racist, sexist socialist demagogue for President. Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States. It's not those of us in the 55% of GOP primary voters who rejected Trump's liberal agenda who elected Hillary, it's the 45% of you who supported this RINO in the primaries who did. Trump is going to do for this party in this election what he did with his failed casinos, his failed airline, his failed football league, his failed steaks, and all of his other many failures - he's going to make losers out of all of us.
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Originally Posted by WIHS2006
I couldent have said it better
Like you I am also a center-right Millennial but I get really turned off by the GOP's obsession with social conservatism and dog-whistle bashing of minorities. The party needs to make peace with the fact that gay marriage and abortion are legal and that's that.
The party needs to focus on economics, not banning gay marriage and creating deportation forces. We need to offer solutions, we can't just say "no" to everything. We need to have a GOP that can win elections nationwide, not just in Kansas and Alabama.
Agreed. Reagan was a social conservative but never discriminated against anyone. Discrimination is not conservative - regulating behavior is liberal.
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