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Not just a simple argument that "Eurpoe Does it" as you can see from this article. Plenty of issues and it doesn't even address the already incurred promise/cost of pensions to current and retired teachers that are partially paid for through new tuitions.
Not just a simple argument that "Eurpoe Does it" as you can see from this article. Plenty of issues and it doesn't even address the already incurred promise/cost of pensions to current and retired teachers that are partially paid for through new tuitions.
Good points, but Europe doesn't do it. University education is not free for everyone, but it is free for the cream of the crop.
Not just a simple argument that "Eurpoe Does it" as you can see from this article. Plenty of issues and it doesn't even address the already incurred promise/cost of pensions to current and retired teachers that are partially paid for through new tuitions.
I'm not that familiar with Bernie Sanders platform, so I went to his site to look it up. Your post is not really clear as to which lies you are poking holes in. Can you elaborate?
As for what I saw on his website, it says "tuition free", not "free tuition". Nuanced? Yes, but it seems to indicate that he realizes that someone has to pay for it, and he goes on to make his case (agree or not, that's up to you) that there are benefits to society, and that the cost is justified.
I'm not sure I agree with him, but I do like to challenge posts like yours. You are claiming to blow holes in something, but haven't ID'd the holes....
My general stance:
-First two years of college (associates degree equivalent) should be an extension of high-school, and those who demonstrate aptitude, work ethic, and results (grades) should be able to knock this out as an extension of their public education. These are the easy courses, and could be done for less cost.
-People who can't afford the rest of their 4-year degree can earn it by performing public service. 1 year of public service = 1 year of public (state level) college.
-100% agree with Bernie on reducing the loan rates. While I can accept the argument that people should pay for their college, I can NOT accept that they should pay higher rates than what someone pays for their ski-boat. Tuition loans should be either interest free, or VERY LOW interest, but only if paid back on time.
-We should look into businesses paying part of their loaded employment costs to support public schools and to relieve the increasing cost. They are the "customers" of these schools, so they should pay some of the load. Right now the corporate welfare is out of control (and a much bigger problem, and expense than social welfare.)
I am cool paying high taxes. Already pay close to 30% in taxes and doesn't do much. It's only going to cover people going back to tech/trade schools, state community colleges, and state bachelor schools. Then school's can offset the cost in their advance degrees and would force private schools to lower tuition, optimistic on that.
I am cool paying high taxes. Already pay close to 30% in taxes and doesn't do much. It's only going to cover people going back to tech/trade schools, state community colleges, and state bachelor schools. Then school's can offset the cost in their advance degrees and would force private schools to lower tuition, optimistic on that.
That may be good for you to pay higher and higher taxes, but millions of Americans cannot afford to. What are they supposed to with a tax bill they cannot afford? See, I don't see a single magic bullet plan to alleviate all college debt.
I think a more doable plan is to provide some partial solutions to help as many as possible.
For example:
* Combined state/federal plans to make Junior College tuition free. Substantially less money involved and kids can get two years out of the way before taking out loans.
* Making it mandatory for colleges to offer more work study jobs to defray books & tuition. My daughter attended a JC in California and thru this and full time summer work on campus she paid fully for her education.
* Being able to roll up school loans into a mortgage. The amounts can remain separate, but by allowing the total to be used in one payment will cut monthly payments substantially. If the house sells, the seller will retain the loan amount under a new loan so it isn't passed on to the purchaser.
Things like this to help as many as possible afford college.
This entire thread is BS. The basic premise of the plan is eliminate tuition first and debt can be eliminated later. None of his plans can happen overnight. That article literally spent a paragraph mentioning the tax on Wall St speculation, which can haul in a lot of money.
This entire thread is BS. The basic premise of the plan is eliminate tuition first and debt can be eliminated later. None of his plans can happen overnight. That article literally spent a paragraph mentioning the tax on Wall St speculation, which can haul in a lot of money.
This "haul" from Wall Street speculation, also has the very real potential of destroying or significantly hurting the retirement and pre-tax savings for many millions of Americans. Not exactly some magic solution that we are talking about here, there are very serious trade-offs and consequences.
Has anyone raised the question , need to have Jobs first to employ the college graduates....
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