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Old 11-11-2013, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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So silly. Every major intelligence agency in the world believed there were WMD's, so did most democrats including Clinton (the real one).
You will never convince the left side there were WMD, but yes, I think most, if they are honest believe there were: What happened, we gave them plenty of time to get rid of them...
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Is middle ground always the answer? Either you have principles or you don't. You either believe in limited government, free markets and the Constitution or you don't. There is nothing radical about it.
sorry, we need the middle ground if we have any hope for the future. And yes, there are radicals out there. I don't know if you are one of them or not, but they do exist. We have to accept things have changed since the days of our country's babyhood. Do you really think our forefathers would view things exactly the same if they lived in todays world: As for principles, standing up for what you believe in is one thing, know which fights are worth fighting is another. There are times when compromise is the only way to get anything...It can't always work the way we wish it would.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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sorry, we need the middle ground if we have any hope for the future. And yes, there are radicals out there. I don't know if you are one of them or not, but they do exist. We have to accept things have changed since the days of our country's babyhood. Do you really think our forefathers would view things exactly the same if they lived in todays world: As for principles, standing up for what you believe in is one thing, know which fights are worth fighting is another. There are times when compromise is the only way to get anything...It can't always work the way we wish it would.
What is one thing we have to show for years and years of compromises?

$16.7 Trillion in debt.

This is what happens when both sides of the establishment types get their way. At some point, we have to learn from our mistakes and start drawing a line in the sand and say NO MORE!

On the left, there is no answer coming on how to solve our financial problems. On the right, you have a group that wants to finally address our ills while others want to "compromise" our way into more the the same deficit problems we've been ignoring for decades now.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:06 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Oh yes just what we need more of democratic lying deceitful control. And a lively booming thriving economy, with jobs for all!

Democrats don't lie, are truthful to a fault, i surely think not.

The economy is in the **** the tank due to democratic bullish control. Democrats have nothing to offer, except lies, mishaps, cheat on dying wives and having a baby with your mistress, and do not know the meaning of accountability or responsibility, for the screws ups you have presented us with.

If you think we are better off under Democratic leadership, go back to school!
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Oh yes just what we need more of democratic lying deceitful control. And a lively booming thriving economy, with jobs for all!

Democrats don't lie, are truthful to a fault, i surely think not.

The economy is in the **** the tank due to democratic bullish control. Democrats have nothing to offer, except lies, mishaps, cheat on dying wives and having a baby with your mistress, and do not know the meaning of accountability or responsibility, for the screws ups you have presented us with.

If you think we are better off under Democratic leadership, go back to school!
Yep, them Dems will have a hard time with fat old white men voters.... errr... to be sure ???
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Old 11-18-2013, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Yep, them Dems will have a hard time with fat old white men voters.... errr... to be sure ???
Last time I paid much attention, all the possible candidates on the right were relatively young, new faces and many were minorities: The only two or three on the left were old, white and anything but new faces!!!
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Old 11-18-2013, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Last time I paid much attention, all the possible candidates on the right were relatively young, new faces and many were minorities: The only two or three on the left were old, white and anything but new faces!!!
We might be better off with a grizzled old Washington insider. Joe Biden and John McCain have accomplished more that the rest of the lot put together.
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Old 11-18-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Not a chance.

Copied from Wikipedia's Tea Party page:

"The Bloomberg National Poll of adults 18 and over showed that 40% of Tea Party supporters are 55 or older, compared with 32% of all poll respondents; 79% are white, 61% are men and 44% identify as "born-again Christians",compared with 75%, 48.5%, and 34% for the general population, respectively."

Basically, the Tea Party is full of demographic groups that have a slowly diminishing presence in the United States. So, a few election cycles from now, you'll have even LESS support than you do now.
And Fox News will have fewer viewers.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Not a chance.

Copied from Wikipedia's Tea Party page:

"The Bloomberg National Poll of adults 18 and over showed that 40% of Tea Party supporters are 55 or older, compared with 32% of all poll respondents; 79% are white, 61% are men and 44% identify as "born-again Christians",compared with 75%, 48.5%, and 34% for the general population, respectively."

Basically, the Tea Party is full of demographic groups that have a slowly diminishing presence in the United States. So, a few election cycles from now, you'll have even LESS support than you do now.
40% over 50, means 60% under, if my math is correct. Those 40% that will no longer be alive in say, 20 or so years will make room for the 60% that will be over 50 then and many of them might end up Tea partiers as so many want to call them or they call themselves. Not all conservatives fit into that category. I think you know that. So showing stats like this is really a waste of time. It is like saying city such and such according to Forbes magazine is the best place to live.. It means nothing, nada, whatever.
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Old 01-31-2014, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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Yep.

It maybe painful at times, but we'll get there.

It is all about liberty.

Bill Kristol: Cuccinelli did better in Virginia than Romney did, and Romney was not the Tea Partier.
Well, here in the real world, as opposed to Bill Kristol's imagination, Romney (47.3% in 2012) did better than Cuccinelli (45.2% in 2013).

But, hey, keep learning the wrong lessons based on false statements.

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The 2 governors races were split 50-50 with the GOP winner in a landslide and the Democrat winner just squeaking by. On top of that, the GOP generated the strongest potential presidential candidate it's seen in years.
In Virginia, the party that doesn't control the White House lost the Governorship for the first time since 1975. Keep telling yourself that's a positive for Republicans.

In New Jersey, Mr. Landslide has the state's biggest newspaper - which endorsed him in October - calling for his resignation or impeachment. Keep bragging about what a superstar Governor Traffic Jam is.

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Ask any libertarian if they would prefer a Tea Party type candidate or a liberal (commie POS like Terry) and see what they say.
We did. In Virginia.

In 2012, the Libertarian got less than 1% of the vote when Romney ran.
In 2013, with Cuccinelli on the ticket, he drove Libertarians away to the extent that the Libertarian candidate got over 6% of the vote.

Keep failing to learn those lessons!

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One and the same. Democrat = Progressive = Marxist/socialist (and yes, throw "communist" in there too).

Obama was mentored by communist Frank Marshall Davis, and is an adherent of Marxism/socialism, as are most Democrats. It isn't new. It has been known as Progressivism at least as far back as Woodrow Wilson.
Ever notice the more a poster uses his userid to insist how rational he is, the crazier his posts are?

Oh, and the "Woodrow Wilson" fixation - yep, we've got one who has been studying hard at Glen Beck University!

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Cuccinelli got over 90% of the GOP vote and the vast majority of the independent vote. He mostly lost because of the fake Libertarian candidate. And the RINO RNC not supporting him like you say.
He lost because Libertarians abandoned the GOP ticket to the tune of over 6% in 2013, as opposed to less than 1% when Romney ran in 2012. Yet even though you're aware of the fact that Cuccinelli bled off support from self-identified libertarians, you're doing everyting you can to ignore it. You don't want to learn a thing - you just want to ram the square peg of how you desperately want things to be into the round hole of reality.

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You will never convince the left side there were WMD, but yes, I think most, if they are honest believe there were: What happened, we gave them plenty of time to get rid of them...
Even the Bush Administration long ago conceded there were no WMD. Thousands of tons of alleged chemicals weapons and chemical precursors, the sort of stockpiles that literally take years to dissemble, and Iraq just 'got rid' of them. More fantasy-land thinking, complete detachment from reality.

Again, the Bush Administration itself admitted it was wrong. You're chugging the Kool-Aid directly from the pitcher...


bush admits there were no WMDs in IRAQ - YouTube
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